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United States of America / Re: 1892 Birth Salt Lake City
« on: Sunday 11 July 21 16:02 BST (UK)  »
Brilliant - that all sounds pretty accurate to me.  I did try to delete this post because on checking I had asked before a few years ago.  I don't remember doing that (old age)  I didn't think to use familysearch.  Not my bloodline just me being nosey, but I found that others researching the same family must have seen my details and they've disappeared, closed ranks.  Can a grandfathers affair in the 1920's be something so scandalous today?  But then a cousin didn't like finding out his mother was born in a Workhouse, said I had the wrong person.  Thanks for taking a look.  Fred

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United States of America / Re: Barrett of Phillidelphia
« on: Sunday 11 July 21 15:48 BST (UK)  »
Hello Sandra, you along with others in this group have gone to a lot of trouble, more than a lot, to thread together the bits and pieces I offered.  The lady who brought me here asking question has died aged 95, her mother was Ellen Rose Carr the daughter of Fredrica (her spelling of her name) and she was the daughter of Leonard Barrett.  Angela was so pleased the story passed down was fact so thank you all for helping me to achieve that for her.  Fredrica's story to her telling of her "Uncle Joe Foster" a gambler being killed in a gunfight was true, Ida Ellen Ruttledge was Joe Fosters wife, she remained in San Antonio until her death in 1918?

1918 is when Angela's mother Ellen Rose visited the US to see family in Philadelphia with her mother Fredrica, that's when they were given several items, Joe Foster's silver ring and a silver name plate.   Recently Angela's son gave me a few photo's to copy and share on Ancestry.co, he found them among his mothers things, they show Leonard Barrett's first daughter by his first wife Georgina Catherine Rutledge, the daughter was called Mariguita Georgina, but from the detail on the back of the photo it looks like she was Quita to her family. A second photo is Fredrica Jane taken on the same day 9th August 1865 at "Grooms Photograph Gallery, Philadelphia. A third photo is Fredrica's mother, Leonards second wife, Frederica Alicia Rutledge taken in 1896 in Atlantic City, the detail on the back says Alicia Rutledge so it was obviously the name she used.

I think I've achieved all I can with this family, the majority of decedents are obviously in the US, but as I found with my own family, some in the US had no idea there were other branches of the family in other states.  take care Fred

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United States of America / 1892 Birth Salt Lake City
« on: Sunday 11 July 21 13:27 BST (UK)  »
Hello - yes I've been here before and you unravelled my complicated story of a gambler killed in a gunfight in San Antonio 1884?.  I came here asking for help because my friends mother wanted to know about "Uncle Joe Foster" (her grandmothers uncle)  Sadly Angela died recently aged 95 and happy to have the details people here provided so thank you for that.

This task may be simpler my mother in law recently died aged 91, she was the product of an affair with a married man, we know her fathers details etc, but there was one unusual fact, her father had married a Dorothy Dawes born 27 May 1892 in Salt Lake City, her mother was Sarah Smith, so to give the child the surname Dawes there would be a marriage also? 

I don't see any scandal if Sarah wasn't married and returned to the UK with a child Dorothy, making up a story about being married would anyone question it over a 100 years ago.  I've tried immigration and obviously Smith is a nightmare, and Dawes was little help, and I don't have access to US records. First things first was a Dorothy Dawes registered around that date?  Cheers

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Nurse Kate Carr in Montreal
« on: Thursday 18 June 20 16:40 BST (UK)  »
Hey you carried on looking for my Kate Carr after I thought the thread had died ::), the findings you unearthed all make sense and the only thing I can add is a nurse Kate Carr of the right age was on board a Canadian troop ship in 1918.  Thanks for your efforts, Rootschat is a great aid to anyone researching family.  Fred

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United States of America / Supposed marriage Salt Lake City
« on: Tuesday 18 June 19 14:55 BST (UK)  »
Hello again -
People here often deliver far more than I ask for so I'm here trying again. 
This is one of those "I wonder why" things we often find ourselves asking when researching so here's the story - The wife of my mother in law's father was born in Salt Lake City 1891-92, my mother in law was the result of an affair so no blood connection to Dorothy Dawes, it was a bank manager and his secretary thing, yes happens all the time ;D
 
So all I know and all I can find entered in 4 other trees researching is -
Marriage 1890-92? Salt Lake City
SARAH ELEANOR SMITH? (Smith not confirmed) born In England.
Married a MR DAWES, was he American?
one tree offers DOB for Mr Dawes of1830? I have no idea how.
A daughter was born Salt lake City 1891-92
1892 -DOROTHY DAWES 
Dorothy gave her birthdate in 1939 as 27th May 1892

Is this a young English woman, possibly a Mormon, who goes to America and had an affair resulting in a baby daughter then came home with some story?  The UK 1901 census shows mother Sarah is living on her own means with her daughter in Yorkshire, no sign of Mr Dawes.

Dorothy's birth might be the easiest thing to find but will there be a marriage?

I'm going back to check out the passenger lists UK-US  Cheers Fred

I've just found a note which makes me wonder if I've asked here before, somebody will tell me I'm sure.  Sarah E Smith travelled to the US with a Miss May Dawes (husbands name)arriving New York 11 July 1890.  Unable to find a sarah or Dorothy Dawes arriving back in the UK.  My access to US records has run out.


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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Arthur and Helen with a connection to Monmouth and Wye Valley.
« on: Wednesday 27 June 18 14:05 BST (UK)  »
Janette - yes, so far I've not found an arrival in NZ for Maud so did she back out?  It's a big move even today, leaving behind family and friends.  I had a friend who set off for Australia in about 1960, the £10 Poms.  His mother had a nervous breakdown on the voyage and they were stranded in Aden until they returned home, she was a nice lady but I think that episode ruined the marriage, her health.  To be honest I don't really know what happened but she disappeared, I never questioned her sons, my friends.  Thank's for the help by the way.  Fred

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Arthur and Helen with a connection to Monmouth and Wye Valley.
« on: Tuesday 26 June 18 00:33 BST (UK)  »
Yes KHP but there's still a story there I like to know.  The other thing that I listed was talk of a big family but there were none or possibly one child by his first wife and 4 by Helen, one died very young, so the photo I remember seeing with a crowded lawn must have been made up of Helen Horne's family who had been in NZ a few generations.
                                                                                     cheers again Fred


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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Arthur and Helen with a connection to Monmouth and Wye Valley.
« on: Monday 25 June 18 14:18 BST (UK)  »
So my grandmother was Arthur's aunt, and my father's older cousin.  He married Maud Harper February 1920, Maud must have followed Arthur to NZ later as she is alone setting sail from Southampton 2 Dec 1920.  I have no arrival date, or departure so far for Arthur.

I'm not sure who deserted who for the Taranaki divorce, but Maud returns to the UK, again no date, but in 1939 she is Maud Rudge (Divorced) a machinist (door linings) at a car factory in Whitney, Oxfordshire.  She died in 1962 aged 67 and was buried at the church where she married Arthur Rudge.  Sad that she never had a family.

cheers Fred

PS - Some hints to family trees are appearing now.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Arthur and Helen with a connection to Monmouth and Wye Valley.
« on: Monday 25 June 18 12:58 BST (UK)  »
WOW to be honest I didn't expect all the replies, and yes I think I asked here a few years ago but couldn't remember to be sure.  I'm probably not alone but my family tend to use other names, middle names, 95% of people call me Fred, my dad was Fred I'm Robert, my dad was known as Sam because he looked like his grandfather, it doesn't help.  If I now add these details to the Ancestry "Rudge" line it should offer me the chance to connect with the family again.  I think I followed a wrong Rudge line and lost track and didn't look for anyone emigrating, no hint came up suggesting that.  This / these Rootschat groups are incredibly helpful, a friends mother had a family story of her grandmothers uncle Joe Foster being a gambler in the US who died in a gun fight, she wanted to know more.  I asked the US group and they confirmed it all, San Antonio 1884.  Cheers Fred

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