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Hello Sylvia,

I can't add anything about the possible Welsh origins of the Kerrys of Smalley but you may have seen that I have been able to add some detail to CK's original Kerry pedigree.

Being curious, may I ask which Smalley Kerry you are connected to?

Regards

Not to worry, I enjoyed searching 
I look forward to hearing about the certificates.
Regards

OK, I admit defeat; after two days of exploring every possible permutation, I'm no further forward in linking Mary Blakey to William Ottewell!
Well, not strictly true; I have found the siblings & parents of Ann Fisher Ottewell.
Charles Fisher = Prudence Wright 10 Jan 1774 at Horsley (Phillimore)
Their children were (all from the IGI) -
Martha 1774
Prudence 1779
Grace 1782, who married a Joseph Ottewell in 1801!
Charles 1784
Hannah 1787
Joseph 1790
Isaac 1795
Joseph 1795
Anne 1803

BTW, Charles Kerry notes that all the children of William Ottewell & Anne died in infancy. So it would seem that all the children that appear on the census with William & Anne, whether Blakey or Ottewell, could be 'foster' children.

Isaac Fisher turned out to be a red herring, even though an interesting character. He seems to have had a large number of children and three wives.

Charles bapt 7 March 1829 age 13
John bapt 1 June 1821 age 3
Joseph bapt 1 June 1821 aged 1
Prudence bapt 7 March 1829 age 6
Hannah bapt 7 March 1829 age 3
Elijah bapt 6 Nov 1831
Louisa bapt 2 Dec 1832
Mira bapt 19 April 1835
Samuel 24 Dec 1837

If correct, his wives were -
Mary Raynes, 2 April 1815 at Horsley
Sarah Rigley, 30 May 1822 at Duffield
Mary Ottewell, 14 Feb 1830 at Duffield

I had thought at first that Isaac Fisher had popped his clogs, and a still young Mary Ottewell Fisher might have married Blakey; but not so. He is still around in 1861, though a widower, with several grandchildren, via son Joseph.

Just to add to the complex mix, there is also an Isaac Ottewell around in 1841. Both he and Mary Ottewell are said to be children of John Ottewell & Hannah Cresswell (Oh no, not them again!) but these entries are IG LDS submissions.

So, I'm afraid until someone (not me at the moment) can set up camp in Derby RO, or their nearest FHS library, and transcribe the Horsley PRs, we are just going round in circles!

I do so like a challenge but I must admit, this one has got me beat for now!

Hi Chilibear,
Icould kick myself for not having seen your Blakey 1851 posting - it would have saved me some time 

Hi Penna,

Thanks for your time.  My initial query was a little random; I was just curious to know if you knew of any of these people.  I had come across your Smalley pages and found them really interesting - my mother-in-law was amazed that her little village is on the Internet!  I cannot wait to see the additions to your pages.

I have just loaded the amended Woolley pages -


As you will see, I did find most of the connections & information, with the exception of that dratted 1851 census for Mary Blakey!

I had found William Ottewell on your website some time ago, but really cannot work out the link.  Hugh and Charles Blakey seem to have been brought up by William and Ann Ottewell.  However, the information on your website suggests that none of the siblings of William married a Blakey.

I am still working on that but it may take a while!

Maybe they were connected through the twins mother.  I have another posting asking specifically about Hugh and Charles Blakey.  From this I have established that their mother was Mary (surname unknown) and had a couple of daughters.  She died before 1851.  I have ordered her death certificate and the birth and marriage certificates of Charles Blakey on the off-chance that there is a clue there.  There father was Charles Hugh Blakey and that is all I know about him!

Hopefully you will get something from the certs; it doesn't help that the IG doesn't have any Blakey marriages and that the Horsley Phillimore Marriages end at 1812.

Also in 1841, William and Ann Ottewell are at the same address as an Ann Blakey, aged 4.  However, I do not know who she is either.  I do not think that she is a daughter of Charles Hugh and Mary Blakey.

I agree, as there is an Ann on the IGI, d/o William & Mary Blakey baptised on 30 April 1837 at Horsley; but I have included her with Mary & family for the time being.

I will get back to you if & when I find anything else.

Got it! Just found the marriage of Octavia Jane and Hugh Blakey, now I see the connection.
Don't you just love it when it all comes together!

Still working on the rest....