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Armed Forces / Re: Patrick Breen R.A.M.C 1908 (Dublin native)
« on: Thursday 27 October 22 20:06 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: hanes teulu on Thursday 27 October 22 11:16 BST (UK)
The Dublin Evening Telegraph, 17 July 1907 carries the report of an inquest "BOY DROWNED IN THE LIFFEY"

"... body of a nine year old boy, named Michael Green. Mr James Green, 41 Lower Mayor street deposed deceased was his son...".

There's a 3 year old Michael Breen on the 1901 Census with James Breen, father and 12 year old Patrick Breen at Mayor Street.

Note - a separate newspaper report of the drowning has the surname as Breen
Yes that is the same family, I searched for reports in the media regs Coroners inquest but to no avail, the Inquest took place on the 17th July several days after the drowning, the boy drowned near the sheds on the North Wall dock, possibly there were no witness's?

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Armed Forces / Re: Patrick Breen R.A.M.C 1908 (Dublin native)
« on: Thursday 27 October 22 10:40 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for this info,really appreciate your time and effort, it now
 gives me something to work with.

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Armed Forces / Re: Patrick Breen R.A.M.C 1908 (Dublin native)
« on: Wednesday 26 October 22 17:16 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Wednesday 26 October 22 13:54 BST (UK)
There's a 1907 militia record for him (discharged later that year on enlistment into the regular RAMC) but I can't see a regular army record.

Born St Thomas parish, Dublin, said he was aged 18 years 11 months in mid-July 1907. A timekeeper.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO96%2F1283%2F111%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO96%2F1283%2F1598117

Thank you for that info, is there any info regs his address/next of kin or does it give any info regs how long he may have served, im wondering would Kew archive be worth contacting?

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Armed Forces / Patrick Breen R.A.M.C 1908 (Dublin native)
« on: Wednesday 26 October 22 13:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I have come across a record in a marriage cert from 1908 in Dublin of Patrick Breen to Bridget Carey which took place in St Laurence O'Tooles church on 1st March 1908, occupation for Patrick, 'Private in the R.A.M.C.', Patrick is aged 19 on the record and living at 41lwr Mayor St which is in the docklands area of Dublin.

Patrick's father is listed as James Breen, who had married twice, his 2nd Wife Annie nee Fitzgerald had died in 1905, James had married her in 1894.

Im looking for possible service record for Patrick regs his enlistment/service, d.o.b and place of birth etc and am hoping someone may be able to point me in the right direction.

As always I am gratefully indebted for any help from member's.
Thanking you.


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Dublin / Re: VANCES Buildings Mansion House 1900s
« on: Thursday 12 August 21 17:10 BST (UK)  »
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Dublin / Re: Register of Harbour masters Kingstown/Dunlaoighre
« on: Friday 06 August 21 18:26 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 05 August 21 09:26 BST (UK)

Both children born before 1911 are registered in No1 East, North Dublin so it's more than likely he was a harbour master's assistant/berthing master at Dublin docks.

Mary 1906 (as O Hanlon).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01721/1680710.pdf

Gerald James 1908 correctly as Hanlon (but transcribed as Halon).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01636/1653895.pdf

KG
Yes I found those entries, im presuming the O was added due to other relatives living in close proximity, or the possibility that there may have been a family rift of some sort, or the likelihood that it was an error when registering births etc that went unnoticed for a period of time.

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Dublin / Re: Register of Harbour masters Kingstown/Dunlaoighre
« on: Wednesday 04 August 21 15:02 BST (UK)  »
As usual excellent response from all, thank you so much, much appreciated, and the family story regs Garret holding the position of 'harbour master' has finally been cleared up.

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Dublin / Register of Harbour masters Kingstown/Dunlaoighre
« on: Wednesday 04 August 21 04:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi, im wondering would there be a register/list of people who may have served as Harbourmaster for Kingstown during the late 19th early 20th century?
Im particularly interested in the name 'Garret Hanlon, possibly spelt O'Hanlon, I am aware of a James Hanlon who was a 'pilot', but am having trouble tracking Garret who according to family legend once held the above position.
Thank you.

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Midlothian / Re: marriage lookup John Dunbar/Isabella Tomlinson circa 1904.
« on: Wednesday 07 July 21 20:34 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 07 July 21 16:11 BST (UK)
Have you found John Dunbar on any censuses before 1911 Ireland?

Do you have his 1904 Scottish marriage certificate?

Given that one of John & Isabella's children was named Ann Ferguson Dunbar
a bit of a long shot but I'm wondering if there might be a connection with the name Ferguson for John's family :-\

Jessie Dunbar Baptism 18 Jul 1880 West Calder, Midlothian, Scotland
Father John Dunbar Mother Ann Ferguson

Ann Baptism 09 Jul 1882 West Calder, Midlothian, Scotland
Father John Dunbar Mother Annie Ferguson

Jane Baptism 07 Aug 1885 West Calder, Midlothian, Scotland
Father John Dunbar Mother Annie Ferguson

I couldn't find a baptism for John with above parents names but this looks to be the Dunbar family on
1881 & 1891 census and they have a son named JOHN born c1878

1881   
Civil parish: West Calder
County:   Midlothian
Address:   Saw Mill
John Dunbar   27 Meigle Perth, occ Mole catcher
Ann Dunbar   33   Kettins Forfar
JOHN Dunbar   3    Clunie, Perth
Isabella Dunbar   4   Blairgowrie Perth
Jessie Dunbar   10 m   Clunie Perth
Details of 1881 census from Scotland People

Perhaps this is John (Jnr’s) birth entry

DUNBAR   JOHN      
1878   
339/ 2   
Clunie (Perth)

And parents marriage entry

DUNBAR   JOHN   
FERGUSON ANNE   
1876   
335/ 4   
Blairgowrie

1891   
Town:   West Calder, Edinburgh
County:   Midlothian
Address:   Torphin Mill
JOHN Dunbar   36   Meigle, occ Estate labourer
Ann Dunbar   42   Wife
Isabella Dunbar   14   Daughter
JOHN Dunbar   13   Son Blairgowrie, Perthshire, occ Quarry Labourer
Jessie Dunbar   10   Daughter
Ann Dunbar   8   Daughter
James Dunbar   5   Daughter (perhaps James should read Jane)

Jemima 03 Jun 1891 Birth West Calder, Midlothian, Scotland
Father:   John Dunbar Mother: Annie Ferguson
There was a thought that there was an Edinburgh connection to the family, and I have just recently been told that John snr his wife and 3 of his children left Ireland not long after his 2nd marriage,(possibly because of the  'lockout'of 1913/General strike which lasted 9 months) leaving young Isabella with his 2nd wifes family to be reared by them.

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