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The probate is straightforward boilerplate.  The only excitement lies in untangling the many crossings-out and insertions, particularly as they affect the probate date.

The day is the seventh day of July.

The year appears to finish as 1561 (mill(es)imo qui(n)gen(tesimo) lxj).

However it's possible to construe it having been 1554 in one of the prior, crossed-out attempts (mill(es)imo qui(n)gen(tesimo) liiij).

Administration was to the executor named in the testament.

Note that some people might wish to argue that the final iteration of the date ends in lvj rather than lxj, making 1556.

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London and Middlesex / Re: John Knyffe 1469!
« on: Yesterday at 04:08 »
Thomas Pymme 1549/50 Isolden (Islington) Middlesex (National Archives PROB 11-33-54).
'First I will and bequeath my tenement I now dwell in in Iseldon with [?] acres and a half of land which were some time my cousin Knyfys'.

Regarding the ?, it is vij = seven.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin Feoffment 1497
« on: Sunday 07 April 24 03:57 BST (UK)  »
With a fresher eye this morning, I think the verb is h(ab)uim(us).

Therefore:

...And formerly/recently we [Barton and Brygys] did have [the lands is understood] to us our heirs and assigns forever of and by the gift and feoffment of William Gybson...

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin Feoffment 1497
« on: Saturday 06 April 24 20:35 BST (UK)  »
...and the land of the aforesaid William Symon, John Stabyll, and Peter Fyssher to the north ...
(skipping one line)
to have and to hold the aforesaid land...

Another person is mentioned in the charter but was skipped in the summary.

It says that the lands were formerly held? of and by the gift and feoffment of William Gybson.

I'm not sure of the verb, which I think is the first word after Et nup(er) in line 5.

I think it's probably one of the habeo declension.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin Letter 1565
« on: Saturday 06 April 24 20:13 BST (UK)  »
The last word of the fourth line after the obscured line begins:  clementia__

The ending isn't completely clear; maybe clementiam.

So he's imploring mercy, clemency, compassion or forbearance

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin Feoffment 1497
« on: Saturday 06 April 24 05:42 BST (UK)  »
The lands are named Snodes, pocokk(es) and Newlond, located in Hadlow.

The measures aren't clear to me - it's 5 of a contracted word containing pec, then wood (bosci) preceded by another word which begins Grana__.

Then follows a section identifying the landholders located to east, south, west and north.

I can give the names but it will have to wait until tonight.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Clerke?
« on: Friday 05 April 24 16:37 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Watson.  Useful to know.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Clerke?
« on: Friday 05 April 24 15:29 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for posting the extra images.

The examples of lower-case c are exactly what I'd expect for the period.

Given that he's used the peculiar form again for the name, I suppose it must be how he writes his upper-case C.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Clerke?
« on: Friday 05 April 24 15:12 BST (UK)  »
If you would like, post clips of the County and any other examples of C or c which might be helpful.

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