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Lancashire / Re: Historic Building Ownership Details
« on: Thursday 14 January 21 13:20 GMT (UK)  »
Solution. The Reeves family remained as Brewery owners (with tenants from 1889 to 1898) during the period 1880 to 1899 at which point the Brewery was bought and decommissioned by Mr. George Shaw of the Bedford Brewing and Malting Company of Leigh.

Lancashire / Re: Historic Building Ownership Details
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 17:21 GMT (UK)  »
Tithe Maps might help with Land/Building Ownership, up to the 1860's, after that it's a matter of tracing Land and Building Sales, than often appear in Historical Newspapers, which sometimes the Auctioneers name the Sellers.
Thanks for that.  :)

Lancashire / Re: Historic Building Ownership Details
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 17:19 GMT (UK)  »
1884 insolvency concerning Peter Reeves of the Crown Brewery:

Got that, thanks.

THE HEAVY BANKRUPTCY OF A LEIGH BREWER (Leigh Journal, 22 August 1884)

The adjourned public examination in bankruptcy of Peter Reeves, late of the Crown Brewery, Kirkhall-lane, Leigh, and of the Abbey Lakes Hotel, Upholland, brewer and licensed victualler, was held on Monday, before the Registrar, when Mr. Winder, Official Receiver, further questioned the debtor. Mr. Dowling (Dowling & Urry) appeared in the interests of the bankrupt. There were several entries in Reeves' books of money paid in settlement of private debts. He admitted that some of these amounts were given to his wife. He made a valuation in 1883 and estimated the whole of his estate and plant to be worth £39,000; the capital was put at £17,000. He put the average annual profit at £700, but he did not make this (1882-3) when hops were dear, and the brewery was worked at a loss. The £180 borrowed off Ratcliffe had never been entered in his books, and had been spent in various ways on the property. He did not write the telegram to Messrs. Mousell, the Manchester firm of furniture removers, telling them to have the van at his house at two o'clock in the morning.—Mr. Winder applied for another adjournment to satisfy himself whether there was a case to present to the court.—The Registrar directed an adjournment sine die.

Lancashire / Re: Historic Building Ownership Details
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 17:16 GMT (UK)  »
From a 1916 publication:

"The Millstone

Also in the Market Place, was kept in 1825 by John Rigby; also in 1836, when it was called by the name of “Hole-i'-th'-Wall.” It was afterwards kept for a long time by Thomas Shovelton and then by Miss Jane Shovelton, his daughter, whose brother James kept the Crown Inn, and was the founder of the Crown Brewery, a portion of the buildings of which are now occupied by Collins and Darwell, Ltd., printers, and also as a Catholic club. "

James Shovelton did indeed occupy The Crown Inn on Hope Street, Leigh but did not found the Crown Brewery despite the similar name. The Crown Brewery was built and occupied by Peter Reeves c. 1887. James Shovelton did however found the Bond Street Brewery on 1 April 1864 which was next door to the Crown Inn and surrounded by Lord Street, Silk Street, Bond Street and Hope Street. As you wrote, the Brewery did provide accommodation for both Collins and Darwell, Ltd., printers, and also the Catholic club from around 1900 (after the Brewery had been decommissioned by new owners in 1897). Much of the Bond Street Brewery building remains standing today.

Lancashire / Re: Historic Building Ownership Details
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 16:58 GMT (UK)  »
It's listed in Kelly's Directory 1895 under Leigh. The image I've seen online is a bit damaged on the edge, but I think it says the firm was Isaac Lawrence & Sons. (As with many businesses, operating from premises doesn't necessarily mean they actually owned them.)
You're right about Isaac Lawrence & Sons. They occupied the premises as brewers from as early as 3 May 1889 (news article placed by Isaac Lawrence & Sons, Crown Brewery, offering used grains for sale) until at least 7 January 1898 (news article naming the Crown Brewery occupied by Isaac Lawrence & Sons as being 'For Sale'). As you stated though, this doesn't mean that Isaac Lawrence & Sons owned the premises for any period.

The Brewery was built by Peter Reeves c. 1877 and was occupied by him or his wife and daughter until Isaac Lawrence & Sons arrived c. May 1889.

Lancashire / Historic Building Ownership Details
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 15:06 GMT (UK)  »
Am trying to uncover building ownership details (1880-1900) for the Crown Brewery, Kirkhall Lane, Atherton, Lancashire. Part way through this 20 year period, the relevant part of Kirkhall Lane was renamed Leigh Road and due to a boundary change, the premises became situated in Leigh as opposed to Atherton. When the Brewery closed around 1899 it eventually became the Duva Bakery and was subsequently demolished around 1980.

The Common Room / Re: British Newspaper Archive
« on: Tuesday 10 November 20 10:28 GMT (UK)  »
Just a suggestion for the future:

Add the page and col no to the source citation (of Newspaper name/ date etc) when you save it. Cuts down the time if you (or others) need to find it again at a later date.


That is a very good piece of advice. Thank you.  :)

Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Joseph Shaw
« on: Monday 09 November 20 20:50 GMT (UK)  »
I would post a cemetery plan and photo of the gravestone but the site hasn't enabled this.

The Common Room / Re: British Newspaper Archive
« on: Monday 09 November 20 20:30 GMT (UK)  »
It’s this one lol. I found it by entering Dowling only in the search

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28 June 1886 - Bolton Evening News - Bolton, Lancashire, England

Excellent, thank you. Judging by the poor scan I'm not surprised that my many searches failed!

Now reads:-

THIS DAY [Before Mr. C.H. HOLDEN, Registrar.]

Re-PETER REEVES, Abbey Lakes Hotel, Upholland and also publican at Leigh. This case, which had been re-opened and several times adjourned, again came on for hearing, when Mr. T.H Winder, Official Receiver, said he did not propose to carry on the examination any further.– Mr. Dowling on behalf of the debtor, applied that the examination might be declared closed, and this course was taken.

Bolton Bankruptcy Court (Bolton Evening News, 28 June 1886)

Don't suppose you can let me have Saturday's winning lottery numbers!  ;D

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