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Derbyshire / Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« on: Wednesday 22 September 21 17:37 BST (UK)  »
Thanks so much trish, that might be the one, I might have got into a brainfart with it earlier, because I didn't even think of freereg, serves me right for genealoging while tired.
Are the earlier 3 from some other source because they aren't on freereg, only the same names born a decade later, parents William and Elizabeth?

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Derbyshire / Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« on: Monday 20 September 21 23:38 BST (UK)  »
The bond is just in the index, I've about as much chance of getting to Huntingdon archive as flying to the moon at the moment so unless my local family search centre has films of the actual bonds and allegations I'm not going to see it . I've found the one shilling thing in another will with married daughters (same line actually, it's Rebecca's husband, Richard Jepson sr ) I'm still trying to decipher the will to see if there's any more clues, It's interesting that Mary Fisher gets 100 . I think from the fine one of my hunches might be correct, that there was a good amount of back and forth between Scarcliffe and Southoe, there's a Christopher and a Penelope who are buried in Southoe in the correct timespan for them to be the Scarcliffe ones, Colton might be back there as well in 1737  seeing as he's named as a party to the dispute, I don't know why that didn't come up when I searched the surname on the NA website. I'm probably going to add what I've got and park it for the time being until I get chance to see some records, I wish the central funding was there to help smaller archives get their collections digitised and available through the National Archives but that's probably a pipe dream. ETA there's a decent possibility that Cotton is a typo , marriage says Coulton , Will says Colton, but if the typo is consistent it wouldn't get picked up by a soundex search for Colton

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Derbyshire / Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« on: Monday 20 September 21 18:37 BST (UK)  »
I'm about halfway through the Scarcliffe records and so far it agrees with what I've found in the transcripts, which is refreshing, but I have thoughts on Eaglin Clarke - if she was married at full age then she can't be Mary Colton's because she would have been born 4 years before they were married , so I'm going to the assumption either there's a bastardy bond or a previous marriage for william (william and Mary were married by bond so ...)  seriously, why didn't that come into my head reading the transcript? these lightbulbs always switch on when i'm reading originals for some reason. I'm also endlessly entertained by the surnames that haven't really changed round here in the last 400 odd years

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Derbyshire / Re: Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« on: Monday 20 September 21 17:41 BST (UK)  »
His younger children are named by christian name in his will and I have the baptisms for all of them except Co(u)lton, Eaglin, Mary and Alice for who I have the marriages and obviously I have more on
 Rebecca as I'm a direct descendant. The will after the part about him offering 200 for Colton to surrender the property in Southoe and Bolsover refers to after his wife's death and his 5 youngest children are named as Elizabeth, Christopher, Sarah, Rebecca and Penelope, If the surnamed ones are Eaglin Clarke, Alice Leadbeater and Mary Fisher, then they were all married prior to the will being written (so presumably had a marriage portion) , I don't have baptisms for the elder 4, either here or in Herts and I have no marriages or deaths for the younger ones (except Rebecca). William's widow remarried a year after he died at Ault Hucknall to John Garnon/Garnow (I suspect before Colton was 21 so that trusteeship of her estate passed to her new husband). what's driving me mad is that they all just surface once or twice and then poof!, they're nowhere to be found , even though there's still Allysons locally  to this day which would imply that at least one of his sons had issue

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My 6x great grandparents William Allyson and Mary Colton married at Southoe in 1685 and then upped sticks at some point in the next 20 years to Derbyshire and I'm having trouble tracking down their 6 children, some of whom may have been born in Huntingdonshire. From what i can see the Colton name pretty much disappears from Hunts by the start of the 18th century, and I believe that she was the only living child of her branch, given that in her husband's will there are property holdings in Southoe in trust for their eldest son which would only come to him after her death unless he surrendered them to his father's estate. If anyone has anything in strays or coincidentally in other docs I'd be most grateful for the help, they're a bit of a loose end and my luck in tracking them seems to have dried up

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Derbyshire / Colton and Allyson/Allison, Scarcliffe/Palterton
« on: Monday 20 September 21 07:49 BST (UK)  »
I'm tying up loose ends in prep for putting the story so far together for my mum (we started working on my main tree in 1987, she stopped after a couple of years, I carried on) and found my 5x great grandmother Rebecca Jepson nee Allyson in the Ault Hucknall contingent, then her father William Allyson of Palterton, I dug up his will and discovered her eldest brother had a really weird name for someone born c.1690 - Colton , then I read further and there were references to holdings in Southoe, Huntingdonshire. After chasing that snippet all over I found a marriage bond for William Allyson of Doddington and Mary Colton of Southoe , so they both came from the Ely area - then the Allyson name becomes scarce and the Colton name disappears in Huntingdon, but reappears in Derbyshire and Notts, so I'm positing a move by Mary and other relatives. Problem is I can't track down where Colton was born (I know he was married at Scarcliffe 30 Nov 1711 to Mary Cadwell) nor any of the siblings, but they should be somewhere as the kids of a fairly well off farmer and landowner .  I'd love to know if anyone has come across any references in their travels to either family in the Scarcliffe and Palterton area from 1690 or has any ideas of where to look other than Huntingdon archives

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Alice Mary Midworth b Nottingham 1896 - Brick wall
« on: Wednesday 23 August 17 23:14 BST (UK)  »
PS, not done DNA yet, I probably will because a good number of direct ancestors have travelled to the east midlands, and another chunk have been washing around the dukeries for centuries so will have links with all sorts of people, especially the yeoman/gentleman farmer types

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Alice Mary Midworth b Nottingham 1896 - Brick wall
« on: Wednesday 23 August 17 23:10 BST (UK)  »
I've seen your tree and it's helped me a bit, but I think I've expanded on it especially the Mansfield and Eckington side. I have to keep my wits about me and I'm about to draw out a reminder tree to make sure I keep the right Sam, Joe or Bill attached to the right Liz, Ann or Mary because I'm at the point where it looks like a logic problem, i'll send you a link when I'm sure that everyones  straight

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