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The Lstin isn't terribly clear, but it is the standard dispensation required for a 'mixed marriage',  in Latin recorded as 'mixtae religione' (?)  ie  either the bride or groom is not a Catholic.
The last word is 'obtenta' which means obtained, which refers to the dispensation. There is an 'et' (and) after the mention of the mixed religions so perhaps there was a second reason for the dispensation. Still looking at this.

As this was after the 1908 change in Canon Law, only the marriage in the Catholic church would be regarded as 'valid' in Catholic terms. The dispensation was probably because it was a standard requirement if a Catholic was permitted to marry anybody of another Christion denomination in a Catholic ceremony.

Armed Forces / Re: Regretful notification of the passing of MaxD
« on: Friday 29 April 22 22:30 BST (UK)  »
I would also like to send my sympathy and condolences to MaxD's family. He was exceptionally helpful and knowledgeable on all miltary matters and inspired real respect in so many of us. RIP.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Yew Tree Cemetery, Liverpool, UK
« on: Wednesday 16 March 22 19:58 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, Benet is another form of Benedict. The Benedictines were running the Catholic mission in Woolton, thus the use of the name for the original chapel.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Yew Tree Cemetery, Liverpool, UK
« on: Wednesday 16 March 22 16:32 GMT (UK)  »
Just to clarify - St. Mary's, the Catholic church in Woolton, was only opened in 1860. However, the records include those of the previous Catholic Chapel, known as St. Benet's. This was in Watergate Lane and was demolished around the 1970s. The original Catholic mission dated back to penal times, which us why the records go much further back.

Lancashire Resources / Re: Link: Liverpool Family Search Image Links
« on: Wednesday 02 March 22 12:00 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, if you can do it from home without a lot of bother, you get round to checking less likely locations for missing information - and find things you didn't exoect !
A big thank you from me, too.

Armed Forces Resources / Re: Deceased RAF personnel records - order online
« on: Tuesday 14 December 21 10:49 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for posting this. I'm about to apply for my father's RAF records, so it's appeared at just the right time to make the task straightforward.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Marriage
« on: Sunday 05 December 21 21:31 GMT (UK)  »
The details put on gravestones are notoriously unreliable. It's not unusual for families to get things wrong,  at a time of emotional strain, especially if some time passes after the death before the stone is chosen, or before additional words are added to an existing stone. If there are different members of the family involved in registering the death and arranging for the wording on the stone to be completed, even a different date of death may be the result.

 It's like Chinese Whispers, that game where each person in a line whispers a message to the next one along. Everyone agrees to the stone, but one person is left to pass on the exact wording to the Monumental Masons who deal with the gravestone.  Perhaps he or she is in a hurry/ has handwriting which is not clear / loses the piece of paper intended to be left with the masons and has to supply the info by word of mouth just relying on memory. Just some suggestions as to how things can go wrong. It's not unusual.

The Common Room / Re: Death Certificates
« on: Tuesday 30 November 21 10:59 GMT (UK)  »
I have to agree with this. Ayashi.. It's annoying when one certificate isn't the family you are chasing,  but paying for a whole collection  doesn't bear contemplation.

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