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Wales / Re: Evan
« on: Wednesday 02 December 20 06:57 GMT (UK)  »
A possible marriage is 1847 to a Catherine Jones. I have sent for  a birth certificate of  my great grandfather so that I can verify his parents then hopefully I can move on

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Wales / Re: Evan
« on: Monday 30 November 20 21:53 GMT (UK)  »
His name was Evan Williams born in 1825 in Llanrwst, possibly but definitely around that area. His name on his sons marriage certificate was Evan so I think on that basis I might disregard “Johns”

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Wales / Evan
« on: Sunday 29 November 20 18:44 GMT (UK)  »
Help please. Is it likely that  someone baptised Evan would also use  the name John on other records or  do people stick to the baptised name . I  believe that John is the anglicised version, but I’m am confused as to how to search if both versions are used. Any advice on this would be really appreciated

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Suffolk / Re: Samuel South - St Margarets South Elmhall
« on: Thursday 27 September 18 11:16 BST (UK)  »
Just an update on my findings re Samuel South (who I believe changed his name to James Clark) James Clark died in London. I have his death certificate and it states that his daughter Florence Whitehead was present and gives her address as the address that we have known her from in Scunthorpe. Florence was my husbands grandma. So if James was Florence's father but her birth certificate gives her father as Samuel South, along with the fact that Samuel disappeared from the radar, we can only assume that they are one and the same person. I am now trying Suffolk newspapers to see if maybe there is anything there that might shed a light on my theory. Thanks for everyone's suggestions so far.

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Suffolk / Re: Samuel South - St Margarets South Elmhall
« on: Friday 14 September 18 11:51 BST (UK)  »
Yes I see that James is shown as his birthplace St Margarets London but  did wonder if it was St Margarets South Elmham which is where the Souths were. I havent looked for James clark death but I will have a look on the card that we've got and trace back from there if possible. It does all seem to fit but as any of us know it is easy to make facts fit our scenario. I really do think that samuel and James are one and the same. I have started trawling newspapers but as yet I haven't found anything. Thankyou for your input. Much appreciated.

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Suffolk / Re: Samuel South - St Margarets South Elmhall
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 16:58 BST (UK)  »
James and Samuel were both born in Suffolk.

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Suffolk / Re: Samuel South - St Margarets South Elmhall
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 16:57 BST (UK)  »
Florence was with her  mother in 1891. Her  mother was Ellen Clark and father James Clark on the census both down as married. the  birthplaces are correct so I think it is them. Ellen died in 1900 and was buried in the name of South in her birthtown. Florence E South was  on a census in 1901 as a servant. She was married in  1903 so then appears with her husband. Interestingly florences daughter, (my mother in law) always told us her grandad was in India for years in the army and was called one name when he went in but came back with another name.  We all thought that was rather far fetched but are now wondering if  James Clark was Samuel South. James Clark was listed as coming from the same place. He enlisted in 1865 and was discharged from the army in 1882 which was when Samuel South and Ellen married.  We also have in our  possesion an obituary card for a James Clark which was amongst florence's possessions when she died.  It's a real poser this one and I expect one I shall never get to the bottom of unless there are some family from Samuels brother or sisters know anything. Yes Florence was an only child as far as I know.

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Suffolk / Re: Samuel South - St Margarets South Elmhall
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 12:11 BST (UK)  »
Yes thank you to all so far.  It is indeed a mystery as the info that you have posted is what I can find and  as Samuel South disappeared after  the 1861 census. Its strange that  I can find  lots of his family, their births marriages and deaths but  Samuel disappeared into thin air, was married in 1882 as Samuel South, but then disappears again, no death being found so far.

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Suffolk / Re: Samuel South - St Margarets South Elmham
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 12:06 BST (UK)  »
Yes I have the marriage in 1882 ( not 1885 as I wrongly posted). Florence Ellen was my husbands grandmother. I knew her well. She shows up on a later census with her mother then called Clark and the head of the household was James Clark. I cannot find another marriage for her mother and only her death which was Ellen South.

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