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Travelling People / Re: Staffordshire Travellers
« on: Wednesday 22 December 21 02:04 GMT (UK)  »
I have Riley's from Staffordshire,  starting in Wednesbury and Alrewas,  and ending up in the coal mines of Staffordshire.   It's been difficult to trace, as I think they settled in the 1700s or earlier.   I know I have  2.6% South Asian DNA on Gedmatch,  and I know my great grandmother and her kids were speaking Romany.  But the Romany purists have decided im Irish, so we're not talking right now.

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Travelling People / Re: Romany DNA - what would you expect to see?
« on: Saturday 02 October 21 00:15 BST (UK)  »
That's really good for you. I never heard the term Romany until 5 years ago myself!  If you upload your DNA to gedmatch (their test Eurogenes K-13) you can get a percentage of any South Asian you might still have.

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Travelling People / Re: Does anyone know of any roots. Links. Or relations to the fryers travelling fam
« on: Monday 23 December 19 02:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, my Romany family the Riley's had some Fryers marrying them,  Staffordshire and Warwickshire area.

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Travelling People / Re: Romany DNA - what would you expect to see?
« on: Friday 15 March 19 02:44 GMT (UK)  »
I haven't been here in a while, thought I'd update you.  A few years ago, I found out thru DNA, DNA matches, and talking to some new found 2nd-3rd cousins, that my 2g grandmother Caroline Riley was from the Romany community.  She was born 1820 in Alrewas, Staffordshire.  Her parents were William Riley and Elizabeth "Meriden"(she was marked at Widowed on her marriage record).  Caroline had an older brother Henry b.1816 Alrewas.  Since the big DNA sales over the Holidays, I've gotten a lot more DNA matches and that helped me find more info: There were records that William Riley was married before, and had children. Now I have a DNA match from one of those kids!  And, I got a good DNA match to a Canadian woman whose grandmother was born in Birmingham. Turns out there were "rumors" that her grandmother was a Romany (in a travelling show), and she does have South Asian DNA.  I haven't figured out that connection let.  But my latest DNA discovery is 7 matches to the Fisher family of Birmingham and later Lichfield, Staff.  I think this Phillip Fisher may be the younger brother or the son of Elizabeth Meriden.  One of the Fisher siblings also married to the Poulitani family, who were circus performers.  All told, I got 9 DNA matches for my Romany side, from the Christmas sale.

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Travelling People / Re: Romany DNA - what would you expect to see?
« on: Thursday 07 June 18 21:01 BST (UK)  »
Bucky - it's a good possibility that you have a connection to the Romanys of England, just go back as far as you can,  and look for DNA matches to people currently in the Roma community.   There's always a chance that an Indian person migrated to England in 1700s-1800s and is your ancestor.
       My father got his military training for WW2 in Canada wiith people from all over the commonwealth, he fondly talked of meeting Maori's from New Zealand.  He was raised to respect all people by his Scottish father and his "Romany but passing for English" mum.  I don't fault her for making that choice.  But my Dad and his siblings would have enjoyed know their heritage, as I finally get to do.

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Travelling People / Re: Romany DNA - what would you expect to see?
« on: Thursday 24 May 18 17:25 BST (UK)  »
By the time of the 1841 census my family had settled too.  I think the mining companies were willing to hire Romanies.  But with some of the censuses, it appears that my ancestors were living in work camps with other Romanies.   It seemed that some groups settled together.  I was able to follow one of my Romany DNA matches' ancestors living next door to another one of my matches.

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Travelling People / Re: Romany DNA - what would you expect to see?
« on: Thursday 24 May 18 15:59 BST (UK)  »
A really good source is the Romany&Traveler site: rtfhs.org.uk:  there are lots of articles you can read.  There's one about what to look for in censuses and old records to identify if your ancestors were in the Romany community. Like occupation, family names, children's names, where they were living, who their neighbors were.  I would add having DNA matches to people currently in the Romany community. My ancestor WIlliam Riley 1st shows up at his 1st marriage, he is a shoemaker.  His 2nd wife Elizabeth, my ancestor, her son Henry worked in the mines as a "Puldler'.  One of his grandchildren was named Cinderella.  He sometimes had young men with the surnames Price and Stanley boarding with them.

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Travelling People / Re: Romany DNA - what would you expect to see?
« on: Saturday 19 May 18 16:31 BST (UK)  »
Not all Romany's show Asia South anymore.  2 Romanies with a low percentage of Asia South could have kids and the kids could be Zero.  My 2nd cousin says her parents taught her some Romany words when she was little, but also not to tell anyone.  I believe you!!  Write down everything you can remember, then got to the http://rtfhs.org.uk/ website and enter their discussions, they will know the answer. 

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Travelling People / Re: Romany DNA - what would you expect to see?
« on: Saturday 12 May 18 19:05 BST (UK)  »
Yes they do get different results. Not all Romany or Romany descent people have South Asian DNA.  They all did when they left India, but it got watered down on their trek to Europe and in Europe as well.  I recently found a 4th cousin of my on the side of my Romany 3g grandparents,  we don't share any DNA, and he doesn't have 'South Asian' DNA either.  And he's still a dark skinned man. 
 

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