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Limerick / Re: John Dwyer b Limerick 1766 d Australia 1844
« on: Monday 29 February 16 22:08 GMT (UK)  »
This is some of what I have researched re John Dwyer.
"John Dwyer came to Australia on 'Atlas 2' which left Cork on 30th May 1802 and arrived in the Colony 30th October 1802. 

John came from Ireland County Tipperary; town Doon; Townland Toomaline.
John was tried by Court Marshal at Clonmel Gaol Clonmel Co. Tipperary.

On 20th May 1802 he was listed as a Stone Mason/Cutter by Governor Masden at Dublin Castle Ireland, on the 20th July 1800 he was found guilty of the supposed attack on the 13th March 1800 at Palas at the new Stone Bridge on the road to Killowla Co. Limerick. At the time of his trial John had a mother, sister and brother in the house with some children of his sister and Tom Franklin.

John Dwyer in the shipping Archive Office: 30th October 1802 from Cork. 4/4004  392  630  COD  138  2/8243  P 13  2417.
He was a political prisoner sentenced to life because he was accused of being in a group of three which was not allowed at the that time in Ireland, which was then ruled by Martial Law.
When he applied for a mitigation of his sentence In 1810 he was living on the stores and was an overseer to Masons, and had a wife and one child.
John Dwyer applied for a pardon No. 327 on 31/1/1810.  He received a conditional pardon No.96 on 29/02/1812.  He received a full pardon on 31/01/1818.

John and Elizabeth had two children in St Phillip's Sydney 1813 & 1815 plus Elizabeth was christened in 1813.  The rest of the children were christened at St. Mary's Sydney.
John and Elizabeth are in the Pioneer Register.  They are on the list for a grant of land in 1814 (3366, 9/3652 Page 17).

John Dwyer took up land at Appin in 1817.  Re service to John Oxley expedition in 1817.

In the Sydney Herald on 15th April 1831 he is listed in the Government Notice, Colonial Secretary's Office Sydney, under 'Deeds of Grant'.
 "Title Deeds, of the annexed, form, have been this day transmitted to the Surveyor General for the Undermentioned "Grants of Lane", in order, that when duly recorded, they may be forwarded to the collector of Internal Revenue for the purpose of being delivered to the respective parties, upon payment of the prescribed fees, and any arrears of quit-rent that may be due thereon: 
He had 50 acres, described in the Government Notice of the 10th September 1930 as No. 1-  Deed dated 8th  March 1831,.

The only record of John's death is in the Parish Register for Appin:  In 1844 he had 20 acres in Whest, 70 acres in Maize, 1 acre in Potatoes, 30 in Cird Crnd, with a total of 80 acres.  1 horse, 15 head of cattle, 20 hogs, 9 bales of wheat and 60 bales of Maize.  He did not live on the farm.

In the Doon Cemetery Laurence Marshall of Toomaline is buried 17 February 1834.  His father Oliver Marshall of Toomaline aged 70 11/1/1835.

In the 1870 property owner of County Limerick there is 833 acres owned by the Reps of Laurence E. Marshall and they reside at Toomaline Doon.

On the internet ( ) Irish Convicts search results of Irish Convicts to Australia 1791 - 1815 "  John Dwyer is lasted as a Rebel on the Atlas 2 - trial in 1801 in Limerick he received Life and was born 1776 in Limerick and died 1844 at Appin and he was a quarryman.

In the Griffiths Valuation Survey for Doon there was a Laurence Marshall Esq in 1851.  This is the son of Laurence Marshall who stood up for John Dwyer at the trial.

In the Tithe Book of Toomaline (Townland) Doon Co. Limerick 1826 - titles there was a Margaret Dwyer title holder at Toomaline in 1826."

My grandmother was Mamie Levenia Dwyer who married Harry Rayner and she was the daughter of Philip Dwyer and Isabella Mary Moore.  This is my connection to John Dwyer of Appin. I can tell you more about his properties in Appin.
Janette Childs

Limerick / Re: John Dwyer b Limerick 1766 d Australia 1844
« on: Wednesday 04 November 15 03:06 GMT (UK)  »
John Dwyer is my 3 great grandfather also.  I do not know any more about him in Ireland other than what you already know.  He was transported on Atlas 2 in 1802.  He married Elizabeth Gurney in 1813.  They had 9 children and I descend via his son John Dwyer b.1822 Appin, NSW and d.1883 Appin, NSW.

Would love to find some information on him back in Ireland.


Essex / Re: Rayner Mariners
« on: Wednesday 31 July 13 04:08 BST (UK)  »

My Rayners used Middle names when connected to the family.  Have not followed the George Miles Rayner of mine any further but will have to do so.  All my Rayners were mariners, even the ones who came to Australia.


Shropshire / Re: Poole Family
« on: Thursday 19 May 11 22:42 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for your post but there was only one Poole who came to Australia and that was my grandfather Frank Poole who lived in Sydney.  He was born in Birmingham with parents John Powell Poole and Elizabeth Susannah Coles.  I will have a good study of your website and many thanks for giving it to me. 
Janette Childs

Leicestershire / Re: PAYNE/WARD
« on: Monday 04 October 10 22:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi John
I know about your John but as they have different parents to Richard known as 'Gil' Payne, think he, John could be a cousin but don't know any more about the families in Hugglescote.  Gill's parents were Charles Payne and Eunice.  Though you will find on that someone has them listed as brothers.  We have yet to see any proof and original researchers here in Australia assured us that they were not related.
Think the families may also have been connected to the Biddle family, but know nothing about them.
Would be interested should you find anything to add to our knowledge of the family.
I know back then that Hugglescote was a one road town.

Thanks for the post

Shropshire / Re: Poole Family
« on: Sunday 06 June 10 22:13 BST (UK)  »
Sorry but no William Poole born Ludlow.  My William Poole was born in Brighton, Sussex.
I have been on GenesReunited for some years now and have made numerous contacts but none that have help as much as this site.  Particularly in Wales research.
Janette (Goorikidz)

Shropshire / Re: Poole Family
« on: Saturday 05 June 10 22:13 BST (UK)  »
My Poole's as I have traced them go back to the early 1700s in Montgomery Wales.  Some moved to Shropshire.  Sorry but I do not have a webpage, but would like too.
I have only found a descendant from one of my Poole's going to US and that was within the last two generations.
I am still working on the Welsh side as the English ones are much easier to trace.
Janette (Goorikidz)

Montgomeryshire / Re: Mary Poole and Thomas Poole, son of Llanrhaidr
« on: Friday 21 May 10 02:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi all

I haven't been on this particular thread as they are not mine, I think so.  Have been busy with other threads, just wanted to let you know that I am still interested in the Poole's as I am beginning to think that they may all be related somehow.  I have got several wills for my Jeffrey Poole back to the 1600s.

I wouldn't be this far except for all the help from different people on this site.


Montgomeryshire / Re: Lloyd family - Llandrinio
« on: Sunday 18 April 10 02:51 BST (UK)  »
I have a Mary Lloyd who married Jeffrey Poole in 26 Feb 1797.  Mary Lloyd, was the daughter of Robert Lloyd, grocer, & Elizabeth his wife, aged 25,
Diocese of St. Asaph.  I obtained their marriage from the Bishops Transcripts on film from the Morman Church.

David has already helped me, but the Lloyds I can't seem to get back any further Mary's parents.
So Check the Bishops Transcripts Llanymynech Shropshire UK - film 0429033 as that is where I found Robert Lloyd's death in 1777.

Should any info on the Lloyd family connect would love to know.


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