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Family History Beginners Board / Was Rosa Louisa Robinson 1828- 1905 a bigamist
« on: Tuesday 20 October 20 15:27 BST (UK)  »
After her marriage to Mark Amos 1828-1893 they went to Austalis arriving on July 2 nd  1852 prospecting for gold.  He married again  in Melbourne in 1865 ,Eliza Sarah Tremain. I cannot find  Rosa retirning to the UK. But  at some point she marries  Edward Fisher 1826-1908, as seen in the 1891 Census. Rosa's sister Georgiana is staying with them. Edward is a retired colonial civil servant . I cannot find him in any records. He was born in Ireland and was mentioned in Quaker Published memorials

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Family History Beginners Board / Second marriage or living in sin
« on: Saturday 18 March 17 21:38 GMT (UK)  »
Rosa Louisa Robinson born in1825  in Kent, married Mark Amos from Cambs. in January 1852.I believe she went to Australia with him later that year he was prospecting for gold.He went on to marry Eliza Sarah Tremain  in Australia in 1865 in Melbourne.
Rosa Louisa  Amos marries or takes Edward Fisher's name and dies in England.I do not know when?
Her photo as Mrs Fisher is in my families photograph album.
Edward Fisher was born in Ireland  in 1826, he worked for the Colonial Civil service. I can find nothing about his birth  ,where he worked but do know that he and Rosa  and Rosa's sister Georgiana were living together in Hammersmith in 1891.
when did she return to England, were she and Mark divorced?


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Reading replies  here are my comments looked up T. Ridout's Will  of 1827 feme sole, "one who has been married is no longer married but is not a widow." His codicil in 1834  may relate to their ? marriage that year their last child was born in that year.  In the notice of Elizabeth's death DEC 1855  she is E.Robinson ,widow of the late G.Smyth Robinson. Do you think they married between 1827 and 1834?  The notice of  Helene's marriage  in 1843 mentions her Father and Grandfather not Elizabeth.
Surely notices in the Court News would be confined to respectable people .I am surprised when I have researched the Robinson  daughters that there is no mention of their Mother , she isn't staying with them,  in 1851 four of then were living in London with their husbands. I have  found in the Census of 1851  an Elizabeth Robinson as a visitor staying with  Peter Perring a retired clergyman.
Perhaps George was not born in ParisI can't remember where i got that from but they were there, why?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Smyth Robinson born in Paris in 1793
« on: Wednesday 13 May 15 21:59 BST (UK)  »
Thankyou for all those postings. most helpful .                                                                                 I am mystified with the idea put forward that  George and Elizabeth would not have been married. Elizabeth Ridout was a respectable woman and surely the birth of an illegitimate  child would not have been put in the newspaper?

If the Ridouts  were  Hugenots would Elizabeht be there on her own in that dangerous capital doing business , a woman?

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Family History Beginners Board / George Smyth Robinson born in Paris in 1793
« on: Thursday 07 May 15 14:58 BST (UK)  »
He married my relation Elizabeth Ridout (1791- 1855) in Paris where two of their daughters were born. They returned to England where three more daughters were born

What were they doing there in the reign of terror?  Was George's father working there .Elizabeth  came from a very respectable  family in Kent.

I am also having trouble finding George in any censuses,I don't know  what he did  and when he died.
Any help please.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Thomas Wall born circa 1840 Cheltenham UK
« on: Sunday 09 February 14 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
Jennifer, thankyou for your thoughts. Richard Fryer Wall and Arthur Anthony Wall  definately went to Australia  and perhaps their sister Frances Fryer Wall went as well.Do you think John Thomas went after his bankruptcy with his family and then went on to Singapore when he had made some money?  Perhaps he remarried there.
I do not have any access to Austalian records, Sue

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Thomas Wall born circa 1840 Cheltenham UK
« on: Saturday 08 February 14 21:24 GMT (UK)  »
Victor, thankyou for that info. I already know that .  I was running out of space in my first query to put in the whole family.The crux of the problem is the son John Thomas  where did he go, did he stay with the children  /remarry?

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Family History Beginners Board / John Thomas Wall born circa 1840 Cheltenham UK
« on: Saturday 08 February 14 18:47 GMT (UK)  »
John T. Wall married Cecilia Taylor (born 1839) on 8th March 1866 at Herne Bay,he was declared a bankrupt in 1872 Cecilia died the same year. They had 3 children,  Alice Frances (Minnie) born 1868 Florence Marian born 1869  and Arthur Calvert born 1872. These children were being educated in school in Singapore in the 1880's. The children grew up in Singapore ,Minnie married James Henderson Drysdale in the Cathedral in Singapore in 1889.They had 4 children.
I have been to Singapore to continue my research  in the Library and the Archives.
My question is this,  how did a bankrupt get to Singapore and be able to educate his 3 children I can't find him living there or in the UK, if he  perhaps stayed here.
I can find a John Thomas Wall  on a passenger list to Singapore from the Uk in September 1908 a month before his daughter Minnie  died, any ideas?

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Anyone know anything about a well known figure in Singapore John Henderson Drysdale, he left the UK to work in singapore with  an engineering company   between the 1890's and  1918 when he returned to the UK and died there in 1924. I have reports  about a sale of the furniture of his home in Grange rd.  Marriage of one of  his daughter's  and  information about his  two sons Frank and Alan.
Does anyone know which of the wall girls he married in  the 1890's?

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