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The Common Room / Re: Glass Manufacturer
« on: Wednesday 06 March 24 12:32 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the good wishes Viktoria!

Allan - thank you for the trade directory entry - I'll pursue that further!

In the meantime I have emailed the National Glass Centre which is, of course, based in Sunderland, so if it is a local manufacturer they should know!

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The Common Room / Glass Manufacturer
« on: Wednesday 06 March 24 11:07 GMT (UK)  »
Good morning

This morning I am cleaning an old mirror which has been in my family for over 100 years. 

I have removed the glass from the frame and found the manufacturers mark which you can see below on the back which carries the date of 16-3-96 (or possibly 26 at the beginning and 98/9 at the end)

Does anyone recognise the mark and have an idea of where it might have been manufactured?  The family branch it came through moved to Sunderland from Godalming in the early 1830s and was there until 1986.

Many thanks for any ideas


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Surrey / Re: Stephen Ellis - any ideas?
« on: Tuesday 06 February 24 11:17 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your input Ciderdrinker.

The 1801 shows Thomas Bartlett who was Elizabeth's brother.  Their father had died in 1785, and their mother had remarried in 1787 and was living in Pirbright.

I think it is hard to speculate on Stephen's birth date - there must be a burial record for him somewhere unless he left the UK and died at sea, or overseas, but I can't find him on a ship's manifest.  A burial would give the age at death which would be a major clue.

I don't really have any Charleses in my side of the family.  The name Charles in the Ellis family comes from the mother's side - she had a brother called Charles Freeland.

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Surrey / Re: Stephen Ellis - any ideas?
« on: Tuesday 06 February 24 11:03 GMT (UK)  »
But the dates don't fit - Thomas was born in 1790 and he consistently says in High Wycombe.  Also it is worth bearing in mind that Josiah was not the first child they had - the first one was William.  There is no baptism but he was buried 5 December 1816.  I suspect that Josiah had already been born by this time so they did not re-use the name William.  The next children were daughters, but the next son was called William (buried 1825), and the last born 1830 in Chilworth.  Clearly it is an important name for Thomas: as a name William does not come from Hannah's side of the family.

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Surrey / Re: Stephen Ellis - any ideas?
« on: Friday 02 February 24 16:44 GMT (UK)  »
You are probably aware that Stephen Ellis Jnr was living with his half sister Hannah Saunders in 1841 in Godalming

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Surrey / Re: Stephen Ellis - any ideas?
« on: Friday 02 February 24 16:43 GMT (UK)  »
Stephen Ellis married Sarah Meaden (nee Freeland) in East Clandon in East Clandon in 1792 and they had three children up to 1796.  His wife died in 1797.

Once she had died Elizabeth Bartlett seems to have moved in with him and they had three more children I am aware of between 1803 and 1807.

It is clear from the Overseers Accounts book that Stephen was paying Poor Rate Tax in the parish until October 1803.  He was assessed in terms of property at £4 15s with a further 5s as a tithe.  In 1802 the Poor Rate was 4s in the £, and in 1803 it was 3s in the £.

By November 1805 he has disappeared from the accounts book as a contributor but his property continues to be charged at the expense of a James Buckland and it was referred to as Late Ellises or just Ellises until 1820, but that year his rate was uncollected.  In future years it was paid by a member of the Buckland family.

His only other appearance was in November 1815 when the Overseers' Accounts show that on 11 November 1815 Stephen Ellis was given 1s in relief.  Just below that there was an entry reading:

Paid for the order of Stephen Ellis 6s 6d, taking him home to Headley in Hants 16s 0d.  This makes me suspect that the person renting up till 1831 may have been his son as if he was renting property in the parish I don't think they would have removed him.

Presumably he had gone to East Clandon for the lying-in of his daughter Sarah, who was also being looked after by the parish at that time.  She must have miscarried as no baptism appears in that parish records for her child.

I hope that helps.

Ashley

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Surrey / Re: Stephen Ellis - any ideas?
« on: Friday 02 February 24 11:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Lisa

Do you mean the Hannah Bartlett born 1790 who married Thomas Saunders?  Her father was Stephen Ellis as he is named on the bastardy bond in the parish records and also on her baptism.

If you are refering to Thomas Saunder's father in High Wycombe then there are no records refering to him.  His son, Josiah, (my ancestor) moved to Sunderland and his first marriage was witnessed by a Henry Saunders, also born outside of County Durham, who seems to have been linked to a younger Charles Saunders whose father was named as Josiah (but not mine) when he married.  I think the two Saunders families are related but I have no idea in what way.

Does that help?

Ashley

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Scotland / Re: James Kirkwood Biggan
« on: Monday 07 August 23 18:44 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks to everyone for the help - I got the death certificate from Newcastle and it was the right one - James Biggan, baker of Bedlington.
Quite sad really - he'd got drunk, went to sleep in the woods not realising he was on the edge of a bluff, turned over and fell off. He 'dislocated' his back and never recovered.  I have no idea how long he lay there, but looking at the dates he was probably celebrating his birthday when he got drunk.

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Scotland / Re: Marriage Entry Linlithgow in 1705 - I'm not sure what this is all about
« on: Tuesday 01 August 23 11:03 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for this - I'll check into it further  :)

Quote from: eilthireach on Monday 31 July 23 19:11 BST (UK)
Could this be the same Thomas Struthers? Thomas Struthers, slater (All of these in the catalogue of the National Records of Scotland (https://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/search.aspx)


GD30   Papers of the Shairp family of Houston, West Lothian   1455-1926
Country code    GB
Repository code    234
Repository    National Records of Scotland
Reference    GD30/441
Title    Receipt by Thomas Struthers, slater in Linlithgow, to Alexander Guthrie, WS, factor of Thomas Shairp [Sharp] of Blanes [Blance], for mending defects in Kettlestoun Dovecot.
Dates    28/5/


Discharges to Walter Forrester as Treasurer of Linlithgow
Dates    1722-1723
Access status    Open
Location    Off site
Description    1) Discharges Mr Robert Daglish, collegiate minister of Linlithgow to Walter Forrester, 2nd Feb 1722 and 13 Sept 1722 2 items
2) Discharge by Mr William Cumine, doctor of the Grammar School of Linlithgow for a year' salary, 12 Jan 1723
3) Discharge by John Dunbar, subdoctor of the Grammar School of Linlithgow for a year's salary, 1722
4) Discharge by Alexander Bell for a year's salary as clerk, 22nd Jan 1723
5) Discharge of the John Bell, procurator fiscal for salary, 23rd Feb 1723
6) Receipt by George Bell, for rent of [] at back of flesh market, 25th Mar 1723
7) Discharge by George Brown for salary for keeping cloaks, 1723
8) Discharge by Margaret Ramsay, widow of Alexander Mylne of Carriden for rent of the minister's house in Linlithgow, 18th Aug 1722
9) Discharge by Robert Strang, precentor at Linlithgow Grammar for house rent, 27th Jan 1722
10) Discharge by James Lowrie for glazier work, 26th March 1723
11) Discharge by Thomas Struthers, slater, 31st Dec 1722

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