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Lancashire / Re: Greenal or Greenall - a place in Lancashire
« on: Tuesday 17 August 21 01:18 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Rosie.

Who knew eh?  I take it the gh is silent.

Best regards


Lancashire / Greenal or Greenall - a place in Lancashire
« on: Monday 16 August 21 17:02 BST (UK)  »
Good Day Lancs Rootschatters

I have a reference to Greenal being the abode of someone buried at Kirkham in 1797.
Googling didn't help much.

I got a hit on Greenall as the birth place of Jane Jackson born 1816 and living at Great Eccleston in 1851. Otherwise lots of hits for Greenall as a surname but not a place name.

Does anyone know where Greenal / Greenall is or was? 

By the way the person who died there in 1797 had connections with Great Ecclestone so I am assuming Greenal is/was somewhere nearby to G.E.

Hoping someone local knows this place. Thanks for reading.


Hi Larkspur and Joney

The Residence thing is annoying especially as 'Census' appears in the list of add-ons. I delete Residence. During the delete process a message states that you can delete it but the source record attached will not be deleted. You can then add Census from the list of add-ons and although it won't show the link it's pretty easy to spot the census records in the list of other records.

You can add the full census date if you wish and put the address in the location box. In the description box I add some details about who else is in the household. This can be useful if there is someone whose presence provides extra evidence of relationships.

I use the Residence box for locations found in non-census records such as Parish records, apprentice records, land records or the 1939 England and Wales Register.

Hope this helps.

Thank You Comberton!

That's a relief.

Best Wishes

Hi Rootschatters

Has any one else who uses Ancestry noticed all the extra stuff appearing in the Profile Person's Facts. In addition to the things like Birth Death Marriage Occupation etc. that we choose to add all the person's relatives' vital facts are added automatically in a grey shaded box.
Birth of Sister, Death of Father, Birth of Son, Death of Half-Sister etc. all listed under the Facts column and cluttering up the page so one has to scroll down through a lot of duplication of facts that really don't need to be there. There is a link for each person listed to take one to their Profile.

One of my trees has a man who had two wives and twenty children (some were twins). He also had thirteen siblings. There are over thirty grey shaded boxes attached to his Facts. It makes for a very cluttered look.
Most of this information already appears on the right side of the page (parents and wife and children)
and can be easily clicked on for further information.
I am assuming the purpose is to create a timeline showing what age the Profile person was when various milestones happened. Surely there is a better way to do this?

Has anyone found out if this "feature" can be turned off?


Canada / Re: Wilton Cemetery, Wilton near Odessa, Ontario.
« on: Thursday 22 July 21 20:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi Don

Jane was a niece of Peter's. She was the daughter of his brother Seth Irish 1800 - 1880. He died in Ernestown Township Lennox and Addington on January 29th 1880 at the age of 79 years and 11 months.
Seth was buried in Violet Cemetery Odessa. Seth and Peter's parents were Abraham Irish and Rebecca Cook.


Canada / Re: Wilton Cemetery, Wilton near Odessa, Ontario.
« on: Thursday 22 July 21 01:36 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your responses Run Kitty and Don.

I did look on Find a Grave but the person I want to check on was not listed so I am assuming that there is no gravestone. I didn't think to look for graves by date. Duh!  I did look for a newspaper obituary but only found item about grave robbers at the cemetery in 1884.

Thanks for the link to the ogs-collections Don.

The name is Peter Irish and he was 73 (born about 1806/7) according to the death record. There is an awful lot of confusion between Peter Irish of Ernestown, Lennox and Addington and his cousin Peter Irish of Haldimand and Cramahe, Northumberland who was born sometime around 1800 to 1802. Many trees have very precise dates for vital records but no source for the information.
Thanks again Don and Kitty. If anyone has any information re Peter's burial in 1880 I would love to hear from them.


Canada / Wilton Cemetery, Wilton near Odessa, Ontario.
« on: Wednesday 21 July 21 19:58 BST (UK)  »
Good Day Rootschatters

Does anyone know the date or year when Wilton Cemeteryburial was first in use? I am looking for a burial in 1880 and think I may have found the person on the OFCA site but dates are not mentioned on the site.

I have found a news story about the cemetery in 1884 but that is as close to 1880 as I have got.

I would like to know if someone who died in April 1880 could be buried there.

Thanks for reading.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Occupation and Officiant Name
« on: Tuesday 22 June 21 23:52 BST (UK)  »

Ordained Clergy officiated at baptisms, marriages and burials so I am not sure how the type of ceremony makes a difference. Also they often performed ceremonies in Parishes to which they were not attached.
I am sorry I cannot give you a copy of of the Rev. Bourke's signature in the Airmyn records because the images are copyright.

Maybe someone else with access to the Airmyn records for 1905 to 1907 could check the records and confirm that the signature is the same as the one on your marriage record and that the burial record of Dec 21 1907 at Airmyn is for Henry Martyn Bourke late Vicar of the parish.

You could also look at Family Search and see if there is any information there. Of course it will most likely be a transcript but there are some original records there. You might get lucky. When the libraries re-open you could also check Crockford's Clerical Directory for the relevant time period and possibly newspaper files as well for further information.

I don't usually bother with the name of the person performing the ceremony myself unless they are related to the family which, in one line of the families I am researching, happened quite often.


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