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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Syner Family, Birmingham
« on: Tuesday 26 May 15 23:15 BST (UK)  »
I've just been looking at this thread again and I think Ciderdrinker's information on Edward Syner's marriage to Elizabeth Francis, and the census records on this family in Milk Street (1841) and Oxford Street (1851) do not relate to Edward Syner (b 1788 in Bridgnorth) but to Edward son of Joseph and Susanna, baptised 1.8.1803 St Philip's Church, Birmingham. Edward's father Joseph, lived several streets away in Floodgate Street. I don't think Edward (Bridgnorth) went to Birmingham with his brothers.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Syner family in Westminster; migration between London and Birmingham pre-1800
« on: Thursday 21 May 15 23:10 BST (UK)  »
The date of the marriage of Joseph Syner and Elizabeth Trott is 8th October 1783, parish is St John the Evangelist, Smith Square. I think the witnesses were the Church wardens, which suggests the couple may have been 'passing through' and had no relatives present?

Glyn Sinar

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Syner family in Westminster; migration between London and Birmingham pre-1800
« on: Thursday 21 May 15 23:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I had not come across the Probate record. If this was Joseph's proven will in 1776 I presume he'd died and therefore couldn't be the same Joseph who married Elizabeth Trott in 1783; unless the will was provisional when he put to sea?
I do not have any earlier occupation records for Joseph before his arrival in Birmingham in 1786' but several other Siners did have connections with boats, on the River Severn, and later canal boat men and boat builders.
A Thomas Sinar from Birmingham also ended his days as a pensioner in Greenwich.
Thanks for your info
Glyn

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Family History Beginners Board / Syner family in Westminster; migration between London and Birmingham pre-1800
« on: Tuesday 19 May 15 20:38 BST (UK)  »
Was migration of ordinary working men and women common between the capital and other industrial cities like Birmingham and Manchester, before the 19th century?
 Were there established London / Westminster Syner families before the 1780s?
Joseph Syner son of Benjamin and Isabel, christened 1755 in Westminster: I am in search of more information to link him with the Joseph Syner married in Westminster to Elizabeth Trott in 1783. 
I also wish to identify him with (or eliminate from) the Joseph Syner who moved to Birmingham, Warwickshire (Rate levy books) about 1786, married to Elizabeth ??  (Birmingham, 1786-1838) who was the father of Thomas Siner, born Birmingham, died Fazeley, Staffordshire.
(There was another Joseph Sinar christened 1759 in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, son of James and Mary, but no records appear to exist for 1750s Joseph Syner baptisms in the Midland Counties.)

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Syner Family, Birmingham
« on: Friday 28 February 14 16:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi! They definitely came to Birmingham from Bridgnorth; I've been researching the Birmingham Siners for some time but only just subscribed to Rootschat so sorry for being late in the day here!
John married Abigail Newhouse 31 Jan 1820 in Aston Juxta (St Peter's/St Paul's). I've found a christening record for John son of James Sinar and Elizabeth (Winwood) in St Mary's Bridgnorth 29 Mar 1796; possibly the youngest of 8 children; one of his brothers was Hugh Pigot Siner.  The Pigot middle name appears to have been carried on down the generations.

Not all the Birmingham Siners are directly related; I'm still trying to find the first marriage and origins of Joseph Syner who was in Birmingham from 1786.  The only baptism record I've found for him is in Tewkesbury in 1759 - even further away than Bridgnorth!  There was also a family from Wolverhampton who lived in Henrietta Street Birmingham in the 1820s, who may be related to the Old Swinford (Stourbridge) Syners.
Hope this helps!
Glyn

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