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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Morpeth Union Workhouse, Morpeth, Northumberland Co, England
« on: Sunday 20 March 16 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Which makes piecing this puzzle together all the more interesting/challenging!
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Morpeth Union Workhouse, Morpeth, Northumberland Co, England
« on: Sunday 20 March 16 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Correct JenB...that is the entry. SelDen, the last name is spelled Vaitch on the birth record. I have found a number of variants on census, birth, death records for Veitch - for example Vaitch, Veatch, Vaitches, Veith, Leith etc etc
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Morpeth Union Workhouse, Morpeth, Northumberland Co, England
« on: Sunday 20 March 16 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your responses and the suggestions.
I have made fairly good progress on Elisabeth Veitch - having found , ordered and received her birth certificate, her marriage to Henry Storey, as well as her death certificate.
Elisabeth was born March 28, 1851 , Beaumont Hill, Paston, Kirknewton Parish, Northumberland co, the daughter of James Vaitch and Mary Vaitch formerly Ewart. Interestingly on the 1851 census for same, I found the family but Elizabeth was listed as Mary....the family was listed as LEITCH. Mary is listed as 1 month of age on the census. My suspicion is that when the census was taken, the newborn had not yet been named as there was one month between her birth on Mar 28 and the registration of her birth on Apr 28...
I also have found the family in each census up to and including the 1911 census. The death of Mary Vaitch (Elizabeth's mother) aligns to the 1861 census which shows James as widower - Mary died in 1858)
Elizabeth was married to Henry Storey on Oct 14, 1876 - both were listed as age 25. Henry's occupation was listed as Mason. Both from Morpeth. Henry's father was listed as George. Elizabeth's father as James. Oddly though, ELizabeth's father, James is listed as a Farm Labourer (deceased).
Witnesses to the marriage were Margaret Purdy and MaryAnn Botter (sp?)
I also have the death certificates for both of Elizabeth's parents - Mary Vaitch died aged 51 years on June 27, 1858 - she is listed as wife of James Vaitch, farm labourer. James Vaitch listed as present at the death, in Roseden.
Elizabeth's father, James, died July 9, 1880, Barnes Cottages, Westoe. Aged 77 years, occupation listed as husbandman. James Veitch, his son, is listed as in attendance at the death.
Elizabeth Storey's death occurred Oct 12, 1917 at 12 Dacre Square, Morpeth UD. She was listed as 63 years of age and the 'wife of Henry Storey a Gamekeeper'. Present at the death was Henrietta McLevy, daughter.
So while I am quite confident I have Elizabeth identified, I am still trying to understand why Margaret Purdy took Edith Annie Veitch in.
I have discovered that Henry Storey's uncle, Robert Storey, married an Isabella Robson. It appears though that she does not have an immediate/close connection to Margeret Purdy (who was born Margaret Robson).
Lastly, I do have the marriage certificate for John Purdy and Margaret Robson. Witnesses as her father, Robert Robson and her sister, Annabella Arkless.
Sorry to send such a long note but wanted to share this in hopes it might spark an idea or suggestion.I truly appreciate all the thoughts/ideas.
Kind regards
Bob
I have made fairly good progress on Elisabeth Veitch - having found , ordered and received her birth certificate, her marriage to Henry Storey, as well as her death certificate.
Elisabeth was born March 28, 1851 , Beaumont Hill, Paston, Kirknewton Parish, Northumberland co, the daughter of James Vaitch and Mary Vaitch formerly Ewart. Interestingly on the 1851 census for same, I found the family but Elizabeth was listed as Mary....the family was listed as LEITCH. Mary is listed as 1 month of age on the census. My suspicion is that when the census was taken, the newborn had not yet been named as there was one month between her birth on Mar 28 and the registration of her birth on Apr 28...
I also have found the family in each census up to and including the 1911 census. The death of Mary Vaitch (Elizabeth's mother) aligns to the 1861 census which shows James as widower - Mary died in 1858)
Elizabeth was married to Henry Storey on Oct 14, 1876 - both were listed as age 25. Henry's occupation was listed as Mason. Both from Morpeth. Henry's father was listed as George. Elizabeth's father as James. Oddly though, ELizabeth's father, James is listed as a Farm Labourer (deceased).
Witnesses to the marriage were Margaret Purdy and MaryAnn Botter (sp?)
I also have the death certificates for both of Elizabeth's parents - Mary Vaitch died aged 51 years on June 27, 1858 - she is listed as wife of James Vaitch, farm labourer. James Vaitch listed as present at the death, in Roseden.
Elizabeth's father, James, died July 9, 1880, Barnes Cottages, Westoe. Aged 77 years, occupation listed as husbandman. James Veitch, his son, is listed as in attendance at the death.
Elizabeth Storey's death occurred Oct 12, 1917 at 12 Dacre Square, Morpeth UD. She was listed as 63 years of age and the 'wife of Henry Storey a Gamekeeper'. Present at the death was Henrietta McLevy, daughter.
So while I am quite confident I have Elizabeth identified, I am still trying to understand why Margaret Purdy took Edith Annie Veitch in.
I have discovered that Henry Storey's uncle, Robert Storey, married an Isabella Robson. It appears though that she does not have an immediate/close connection to Margeret Purdy (who was born Margaret Robson).
Lastly, I do have the marriage certificate for John Purdy and Margaret Robson. Witnesses as her father, Robert Robson and her sister, Annabella Arkless.
Sorry to send such a long note but wanted to share this in hopes it might spark an idea or suggestion.I truly appreciate all the thoughts/ideas.
Kind regards
Bob
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Morpeth Union Workhouse, Morpeth, Northumberland Co, England
« on: Thursday 07 January 16 13:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish and SelDen,
I wanted to update you on my efforts on the parents of Edith Annie Veitch and the Purdy connection.
SelDen, I was able to secure a copy of the marriage certificate of Henry Storey to Elizabeth Veitch and to my surprise, Margaret Purdy was listed as a witness to the wedding. I think this cannot be coincidence. I am therefore inclined to believe that the Elizabeth Veitch who married Henry Storey is the same Elizabeth Veitch who was listed as Edith Annie Veitch's mother on her birth certificate. I am also in support of your suggestion that on Edith's marriage certificate of 1893, the registrant (or Edith) entered the father's name incorrectly....it should have been Henry Storey.
The mystery deepens however as in the 1881 census, Henry and Elizabeth are listed, their daughter Edith is not (as presumably she was taken in by Margaret Purdy by this time) however, there is a son, Edward, listed as having been born in 1874...the year prior to my great-grandmother.
While I am no closer to understanding what the family connection between these people and Margaret Purdy was....I feel I have a clearer picture of who Edith's parents were....I wanted to thank you both for the suggestions and comments. Its been very helpful. My research continues! Bob
I wanted to update you on my efforts on the parents of Edith Annie Veitch and the Purdy connection.
SelDen, I was able to secure a copy of the marriage certificate of Henry Storey to Elizabeth Veitch and to my surprise, Margaret Purdy was listed as a witness to the wedding. I think this cannot be coincidence. I am therefore inclined to believe that the Elizabeth Veitch who married Henry Storey is the same Elizabeth Veitch who was listed as Edith Annie Veitch's mother on her birth certificate. I am also in support of your suggestion that on Edith's marriage certificate of 1893, the registrant (or Edith) entered the father's name incorrectly....it should have been Henry Storey.
The mystery deepens however as in the 1881 census, Henry and Elizabeth are listed, their daughter Edith is not (as presumably she was taken in by Margaret Purdy by this time) however, there is a son, Edward, listed as having been born in 1874...the year prior to my great-grandmother.
While I am no closer to understanding what the family connection between these people and Margaret Purdy was....I feel I have a clearer picture of who Edith's parents were....I wanted to thank you both for the suggestions and comments. Its been very helpful. My research continues! Bob
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Morpeth Union Workhouse, Morpeth, Northumberland Co, England
« on: Sunday 01 November 15 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish,
I have submitted a research request to the Northumberland Archives in hopes they can review the bastardy bonds/maintenance/appeals against bastardy orders relating to Edith Annie Veitch...I'll let you know what I hear once I get their completed research
Bob
I have submitted a research request to the Northumberland Archives in hopes they can review the bastardy bonds/maintenance/appeals against bastardy orders relating to Edith Annie Veitch...I'll let you know what I hear once I get their completed research
Bob
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Morpeth Union Workhouse, Morpeth, Northumberland Co, England
« on: Saturday 10 October 15 20:00 BST (UK) »
That is a very interesting point about Elizabeth Veitch and Henry Storey.....I totally agree that it is likely my G-grandmother modified names....when she ultimately left her husband (John Thompson) in Gateshead and moved to Canada, she eventually remarried....on that marriage certificate, she listed her maiden name as Purdy.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Morpeth Union Workhouse, Morpeth, Northumberland Co, England
« on: Saturday 10 October 15 17:39 BST (UK) »
One other add....
I do have Margaret Robson as the daughter of Robert Robson and Margaret Bell...I suspect this is correct as their other daughter, Annabella Robson, married Thomas Arkless....which Margaret and my Edith appear on later census records
I do have Margaret Robson as the daughter of Robert Robson and Margaret Bell...I suspect this is correct as their other daughter, Annabella Robson, married Thomas Arkless....which Margaret and my Edith appear on later census records
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Morpeth Union Workhouse, Morpeth, Northumberland Co, England
« on: Saturday 10 October 15 17:36 BST (UK) »
My most plausible connection between Margaret (Robson) Purdy and Edith Annie Veitch may in fact be the Morpeth Union Workhouse.
In the 1841 census for Morpeth I had previously come across the following:
Bridge St Ann Robson Age 35
Margaret Robson Age 17
While the age doesnt match to what has been previously suggested (Margaret being born abt 1830),
this could be the connection as to why Margaret Robson took in Edith Annie Veitch. By the address of Bridge Street and the large number of people listed, I am opnly left to speculate that Margaret's mother, Ann, was a resident of the workhouse when Edith Annie Veitch was born there......its a long shot but underscores how little success I have had in making connections.
I do suspect there must have been some sort of family connection between Margaret and Edith Annie for her to take her in, given her own situation.
In the 1841 census for Morpeth I had previously come across the following:
Bridge St Ann Robson Age 35
Margaret Robson Age 17
While the age doesnt match to what has been previously suggested (Margaret being born abt 1830),
this could be the connection as to why Margaret Robson took in Edith Annie Veitch. By the address of Bridge Street and the large number of people listed, I am opnly left to speculate that Margaret's mother, Ann, was a resident of the workhouse when Edith Annie Veitch was born there......its a long shot but underscores how little success I have had in making connections.
I do suspect there must have been some sort of family connection between Margaret and Edith Annie for her to take her in, given her own situation.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Morpeth Union Workhouse, Morpeth, Northumberland Co, England
« on: Saturday 10 October 15 12:57 BST (UK) »
Thankyou SelDen for the reply....yes my Edith Annie Veitch is the same as the person married in Gateshead in 1893 to John Thompson. On the marriage certificate, she lists her father as Henry Veitch (deceased). His occupation was listed as 'game keeper'. Interestingly, there was a Henry Veitch listed in the 1881 census for Morpeth Union Workhouse as an inmate at the institution. He was aged 80 at the time. I am not confident this information is accurate as it would have been supplied by my G-Grandmother.
The oral history of the family passed down is that Edith was born to very young unwed mother who gave her up at birth. Edith was taken in by a family of Purdys in Morpeth. To your Arkless reference, the connection is through the Purdy line. As I recall, Margaret's sister Annabelle married an Arkless.
Hi Trish....great to reconnect..yes she was taken in by Margaret Purdy and raised as her own...the curiousity for me in that is that Margaret by that time, was a widow on her own with 4 or 5 children to raise...so why take in another? Not sure if I'lll ever get to the bottom of it but am hoping to learn more.
Thank you all
Bob
The oral history of the family passed down is that Edith was born to very young unwed mother who gave her up at birth. Edith was taken in by a family of Purdys in Morpeth. To your Arkless reference, the connection is through the Purdy line. As I recall, Margaret's sister Annabelle married an Arkless.
Hi Trish....great to reconnect..yes she was taken in by Margaret Purdy and raised as her own...the curiousity for me in that is that Margaret by that time, was a widow on her own with 4 or 5 children to raise...so why take in another? Not sure if I'lll ever get to the bottom of it but am hoping to learn more.
Thank you all
Bob
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