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Ireland / Re: EARL GREY SCHEME Irish Female Migrants to Australia
« on: Monday 23 May 22 06:25 BST (UK)  »
Hello, yt2, I came across your post. There is a site https://bound-for-south-australia.collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/1849Inconstant.htm

It might be of interest but South Australia Records should have a list of ships with passenger names and details. On NSW records there is a list for ships by year with passenger names and beside names it indicates where they are from - mine in 1850 had her age, religion, was from Co Tipperary and gave her town name and whether she could read or write.

If you haven't already check with State Records of South Australia or even the National Library of Australia.

MarilynL

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Moore of Drumachose
« on: Monday 14 June 21 09:25 BST (UK)  »
Hello, Tim, re the quote you have from dunvr in 2009 about his Albert Moore with mother Anne Jane Moore.

Dunvr and I did some research a couple of years ago about our Moores from Carrowreagh and Carrowclare near Limavady. Our lines had a common ancestor back a few generations.  I have earlier posts on this Drumachose trail.

Limavady is only about 13 miles from Garvagh.

Anne Jane Moore was born about 1835 to Samuel Moore 1798-1860. We have details of his Will. About 1852-57 Anne Jane Moore married a John Moore of Carrowclare. They had 3 children Sarah 1858, Albert 1860, Samuel 1863. Then John died and Anne Jane married a John Norris in 1865. In 1880 they went to Australia and only Sarah and Samuel went with them. Albert stayed behind and dunvr thought he may have opened a hotel - there was contact with the family in Australia and Anne Jane died in Victoria in 1920.

So could this Albert born in 1860 or a son Albert (I don't have information on that) be your great grandfather. I don't know what records you can find about your great grandfather re when and where he was born - if of Albert 1860 he could have been born about 1880-1890. You say your Granda was born 1913. The years could work.

In our research Albert wasn't a common name.

Marilyn Long.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA puzzle
« on: Saturday 24 March 18 03:35 GMT (UK)  »
All on both sides have tested with ftdna. In addition one sister tested on Ancestry and that is the only result on Gedmatch - none of the ftdna are.

The sister on Gedmatch has this on chromosome 23 compared to me though she isn't on my list of matches - 44916961-51207222 (8.8919 cM), 51361035-68051531 (4.5881 cM), New Root. No X compared to my brother.

On ftdna:
On my results
- 3 of the 4 sisters have X.
Sister 1 - my 3rd match overall and on chromo browser total 15 segments and though she is an X match nothing on 23.
Sister 2 - my 4th match overall has total 22 segments but none on chromo 23 though she is an X match.
Sister 3 (the one on Ancestry on Gedmatch) - lower down my list of matches and has X match and has total 15 segments spread over chromo 23 and 12.
Sister 4 - not an X match to me and not on my list of matches.
Person 5 - likely daughter of one/niece to others is an X match to me with total 15 segments over chromo 23 and 12. She is on same chromos as Sister 3 but Person 5 has the sister's maiden name - maybe a 5th sister?

On ftdna:
On my brother's results
- nothing on chromo 23 / X for chromo browser for anyone.
Sister 1 - his 4th general match and the only one who has X match on the list but on chromo browser nothing on chromo 23. Total 17 segments.
Sister 2 - his #7 match and total 15 segs.
Sister 3 - low match and total 13 segs.
Sister 4 - his #2 match after me and total 17 segs.
Person 5 - low match and total 15 segs.

I hope this isn't too confusing. It would be better if all were on Gedmatch.

Marilyn

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA puzzle
« on: Thursday 22 March 18 03:58 GMT (UK)  »
I J, thankyou. It is what I suspected and will probably be too difficult to work out.

Regards, Marilyn

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / DNA puzzle
« on: Sunday 18 March 18 00:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hope someone can help me with explanation of below.

I have X match with 3 sisters. My brother has X match with one of them.

The common ancestors are the 4 x gt grandparents of the sisters and the 3 x gt grandparents of my brother and I in England. We are now in Australia and the sisters in the USA.

The ancestors are on my father's direct male line and my brother and I still have that surname.

My brother and I are from the son of our 3 x gt g/parents and the 3 sisters are from a brother and sister of those ancestors (their 4 x gt g/ parents) - 3 siblings of the 3 x and 4 x gt g/parents.

For the 3 sisters a daughter of the male sibling married a son of the female sibling and their daughter married a man (the gt grandfather of the sisters) whose surname is the maiden name of the 3 sisters.

Given X is suposed to come from our mother or our father's mother I don't understand the X matches we have.

I hope someone can explain, please.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Abbreviations in North Ireland records
« on: Tuesday 27 February 18 06:37 GMT (UK)  »
Aghadowey, thankyou for your help. I had read about the agnomens in Griffiths and that helped me with my earlier query about William  Moore (Ned). It looks like a genealogical clue - his father or grandfather is probably an Edward, or in 1858 he had the land of an Edward from 1826.

But Teag is a new one and I can't figure out what the specific word means - I have googled and can't find anything Irish or legal. There is no townland called Teag but one called Balteagh SE of Limavady. I can't understand what it might be an abbreviation of. Some other townlands end in teagh so it is Irish for something (draigh?).

Teag appears as "Reps William Moore (Teag)"  in a Revision for Carrowreagh in Tamlaght Finlagan for 1864-80 and not in 1858 Griffiths, and beside the name of  the man who was probably William Moore (Ned) in 1858 as they are both deceased in the same time frame. And someone else has written Ned below Teag. He was on a Lot 12 which was created in 1862 from Lots 1B and 2B and adjacent to Lots 10.11. of William Moore (Ned). Related Moores had most of Carrowreagh.

I am trying to find out if Teag is a legal word, or a nickname as Ned is for Edward, or an Irish word or something else.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Abbreviations in North Ireland records
« on: Monday 26 February 18 03:22 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, on this same topic I have come across a new word on VAL/12/B/31/20B   for 1864-1880 - the Valuation Revision of 1864-1880 for Carrowreagh in Tamlaght Finlagan in Co Derry.

It is Teag and is in brackets after a William Moore likely the same who had Ned after his name in Griffiths in 1858 and Revisions to 1860-63.

Would anyone know what Teag means?

I have been checking Williams in Carrowreagh and Carrowclare in 1858 and the one with (Ned) after his name is crossed out in the 1864-1880 Revisions, including for a William in Carrowclare who didn't have (Ned). This seems to pinpoint a William who had land in both townlands and died 1864-1880, but as there were 2 different Williams in Carrowreagh one had (Ned) to differentiate him.

But by above 1864-80 he was shown as Reps William Moore (Teag). Beside one of these 4 or 5 entries someone has written Ned in faint writing.

Another William isn't crossed out til the Revision of 1883-98 and is likely the William JR of Carrowreagh of a Will of 1874/died 1883 - I am trying to ascertain if Ned and JR are father and son.

I also found a list of Landowners in Ireland, 1876 - Derry which has a Moore, William Teag on it (perhaps indicating Ned was still alive 1876 and died by 1880).

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Ireland Resources / Re: Griffiths and VAL/2 series
« on: Sunday 18 February 18 02:24 GMT (UK)  »
Thankyou, both. I have played around with which boxes to complete and spellings - Carrowreagh or Carryreagh, Keenaught or Kennaught etc, and have some results. It can be confusing how many boxes you actually need to complete to get a result.

I was wondering if more of the VAL/2/B items on PRONI apart from Field Books were accessible on line - 107 items including below and then the sub results of A B C D

VAL   Valuation Records
-      VAL/2   Griffith Valuation
[1 - 4]      
PRONI Reference   Title                        Date(s)        
VAL/2/A            Six Inch Map Series       1856-1862      
VAL/2/B              Field Books               1853-1864      
VAL/2/C              Published Lists               1862      
VAL/2/D              Town Plans               1859-1895   

And any of VAL/1 to VAL/22 and sub results?

E.G.  VAL/2/B/5/24B and 24C for Tamlaght Finlagan?  And VAL/2/A consists of 82 sub results with maps for all the Parishes of Co Londonderry.

Is what is on PRONI on very limited with it's availability online so that you either have to go to PRONI or pay a researcher to go for you?

Marilyn

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Ireland Resources / Re: Griffiths and VAL/2 series
« on: Saturday 17 February 18 08:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hallmark, thankyou very much. I have clicked on all the options from the link but cannot find the Book option you show on the right side of the screen print. Nor get to the page you show in the screen print.

Can you, please, explain the path to get to it.

Thankyou, Marilyn

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