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Yes that is the correct ship.

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Yes quite possible, certainly fits in context of the sentence.

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sorry had trouble resizing the attachment!

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Hi,  Here is the word written a couple of times. Thanks

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Hi,

I'm trying to get some further information on my 6th Great Grandfather John Bray.  He died in 1804 after the trade ship (Betsey) he was on went missing with crew presumed drowned on 7th Dec 1804 - near Broadstairs.  He was involved in New Foundland and Portugal trades.  According to his wife's (Susanna Bray) application to Trinity House he was Master for many years on "Vifoils" (I don't think that spelling is correct - it is difficult to decipher on the trinity house petition image) with the ship returning from the Island of Newfoundland.  The only site I have found any reference to him is on the Guildhall Library Lloyds Index.  John Bray married Susanna Townsend in Combeinteignhead Devon in 1790. 

Some of the other websites I have looked to try to get more information on the ship and John's maritime career include-
Findmypast, maritime history archive, Hull history centre, Lloyds register foundation, wreck site 

I'm very unfamiliar with Maritime research and records, therefore not sure if I am missing information or just searching incorrectly so any help would be greatly appreciated.

A few questions I have are -
Where exactly is the broadstairs area?
How long did a ship need to be missing before sailors deaths were registered?
The Betsey was a "Brig" - Are there any vessels classed or named "vifoil"
Susanna's petition to Trinity house wasn't until 1809 - were petitions normally only lodged once family had fallen on hard times and needed assistance?
Thanks Mel

 


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Sussex / Re: TURNER, John (Browning)
« on: Monday 27 April 20 05:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi Glenn and Candy,

Thank you Glenn for sharing, a huge amount of information to digest - very excited to read this thoroughly. How did you get a photo of Elizabeth Barnard? what a find.

Candy, hope you are well.  If your email is the same, happy to discuss anything off forum.  Mine has not changed   :)

Browning as a middle name certainly had been used for many generations (more than I expected)  It was last used in my direct line with my Great Grandfather - Clifton (AKA Cliffie/Cliff) Browning Robinson.  Unfortunately he passed away when I was only 4.

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Sussex / Re: TURNER, John (Browning)
« on: Saturday 25 April 20 10:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi Glenn,

It has been many years since I have been looking at the Turner's and recently decided to pick it up again (fingers crossed you see this!)  There seems to be a fair bit on Ancestry, but following up on some of these names, I couldn't find hard evidence (marriages fail to mention parents names etc) to prove exact connections.  There also seems to be theories of a connection between Elizabeth Wilkin's family and the Wilkin's in Tisbury Wiltshire - I'm not so sure with some of the research I have done.  Checking up on this post again was a pleasant surprise.  Since this post you may have been in contact with catpow (I have not had any correspondence her for many years), but in answer to your questions...
1) Edward jr did marry Ellen Sweeny  on 6 Jan 1840 at the Holy Trinity Church, Adelaide, South Australia.  They had x2 daughters - Ellen born about 1840 and Emma born about 1844.  There does not seem to be any birth records for these two children.  Emma went on to marry James Ashby, then James Foulds and died in 1874.  Ellen married Malcolm Spence, William Hill and her 3rd marriage was to Joseph Flower and died on 1926.  Emma and Ellen did have children.
2) Jane Turner (Edward and Elizabeth's daughter) went on to marry John Essenhigh on the 15/05/1845 at Holy Trinity Church, Adelaide. They went on to have 5 children.  At some point she moved to Melton Victoria with her family and died in 1876.
I would like to exchange more information if possible, the Turners have proved difficult to track!
Regards Mel

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Australia / Re: Cemeteries in Bridgewater South Australia 1870's - Ann Garland
« on: Monday 19 March 18 09:40 GMT (UK)  »

Yes that's her.  I think Mt Lofty Historical society is going to be my best bet.  I have since discovered some old pamphlets/church minutes stored at the state library that may help - it's just trying to get in there...... and that there was a cemetery attached to the Bible Christian Church as well, so that makes 2 cemeteries that have been cleared in the local township.  I'm curious as to why this would occur, space certainly wasn't an issue and I would have thought that clearing a cemetery no matter how old wouldn't be looked upon as overly favourable by the community....

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Australia / Cemeteries in Bridgewater South Australia 1870's - Ann Garland
« on: Sunday 18 March 18 09:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

I'm trying to locate where a family member (Anne Garland) may have been buried.  She died in Bridgewater (Adelaide Hills) South Australia in 1871, so I'm assuming she would have been buried around the area, her husband stayed on in Bridgewater for a number of years after her death.  All searches of surrounding cemeteries have not come up with anything.

There was a methodist cemetery in Bridgewater (now cleared) but not a huge amount of information is available on line, no burial records, why is was cleared or dates it was in use.

There also appears to be a Bible Christian Church which was in use around this time - different location to the Methodist cemetery. But once again cannot find any information online if there was a cemetery attached to the church.

I plan to go to the historical society to see if they have any information, but though I would try my luck on here as well.

Mel

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