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Derbyshire Lookup Requests / Re: the mystery of William Hill
« on: Monday 19 September 22 11:56 BST (UK) »
Actually, ill write it down here so anyone else who may be linked can see it.
Thomas Hill married H/Esther (sometimes spelt with an H but i believe its Esther as one of their daughters are Esther). Last time i checked, i could find no record of their marriage, or birth, ive looked hard. Thomas died in 1799, Esther in 1800, both buried at St Werburghs Derby.
They married around 1754, probably in Derbyshire as they lived in Brailsford and neighbouring Mugginton.
Their children are..
1755 - Samuel
1758 - Thomas
1760 - William .......... these were christened at Brailsford
1762 - Joseph
1763 - Robert
1764 - Hannah
1766 - Esther
1768 - Mary
1770 - Betty .............. These were christened at Mugginton.
They were millers, and the first 4 males all were millers, and often were witnesses to eachothers marriages, which took place mainly at St Werburghs Derby.
Now William 1760 was a bit of a rum 'un ... He married Mary Tarrat in 1780, she was 15 years his senior... and their first born Samuel was born 4 months later... lol.. so yes, they had to marry.
They had another son, William 1782, and its his life that caused confusion. This is because he/they moved to London, Paddington, around 1810 - he disappeared from local records.
Mary Tarrat died in 1815, and was returned to Mugginton, from Borrowash where she and William 1760 lived.
William 1760 re-married in 1816, to Rachael Hutchinson at Ashourne. Because he was 55, she 21, we assumped Rachael had married William 1782. She hadnt, she married William 1760. (hence the confusion and reason for this thread)
Theres more rather shocking things.
Now, not only was Rachael pregnant, (history repeating itself, their son Samuel 1816 was also born within months of their marriage) but Rachael was William 1760's cousin!
William 1760's youngest sister, Betty 1770 married Joseph Hutchinson and Rachael was their first born in 1795.
So William 1760 married Rachael his cousin in 1816 at Ashbourne after getting her pregnant, before returning to Borrowash/Ockbrook after Samuel was bron in Mugginton in 1816.
Theres also a bastardy case against William, a Mary Foley claimed he is the father of her child. Ive been unable to verify this, this info came from a local source. I can find no Mary Foley in any records at Borrowash/Ockbrook around 1800.
At Borrowash and Ockbrook (neighbouring villages) they had
1821 - Mary
1825 - Edwin
1826 - William
1831 - Eliza
As William 1760 died and is burried at Ockbrook, in 1830, it begs the question whether he ever saw Eliza, or even was Eliza his?
In the 1830's the family had moved to newly built cottages/terrace at Shacklecross, Borrowash.
The Millingtons also lived next door to them, so it looks like he had seduced (or raped? ) Mary who produced Jemima.
As you know, Jemima married Jesse Simms, but did you know one of their children, Charles, emigrated to Canada?
Rachael died in 1864, and is buried at Ockbrook.
Edwin is my direct ancestor, his son George met his wife also as neighbours at Shacklecross.
George 1859-1930 and Emily (Finney) are my great grandparents on my mothers side.
So we are both descended from William 1760 and Rachael.
Thomas Hill married H/Esther (sometimes spelt with an H but i believe its Esther as one of their daughters are Esther). Last time i checked, i could find no record of their marriage, or birth, ive looked hard. Thomas died in 1799, Esther in 1800, both buried at St Werburghs Derby.
They married around 1754, probably in Derbyshire as they lived in Brailsford and neighbouring Mugginton.
Their children are..
1755 - Samuel
1758 - Thomas
1760 - William .......... these were christened at Brailsford
1762 - Joseph
1763 - Robert
1764 - Hannah
1766 - Esther
1768 - Mary
1770 - Betty .............. These were christened at Mugginton.
They were millers, and the first 4 males all were millers, and often were witnesses to eachothers marriages, which took place mainly at St Werburghs Derby.
Now William 1760 was a bit of a rum 'un ... He married Mary Tarrat in 1780, she was 15 years his senior... and their first born Samuel was born 4 months later... lol.. so yes, they had to marry.
They had another son, William 1782, and its his life that caused confusion. This is because he/they moved to London, Paddington, around 1810 - he disappeared from local records.
Mary Tarrat died in 1815, and was returned to Mugginton, from Borrowash where she and William 1760 lived.
William 1760 re-married in 1816, to Rachael Hutchinson at Ashourne. Because he was 55, she 21, we assumped Rachael had married William 1782. She hadnt, she married William 1760. (hence the confusion and reason for this thread)
Theres more rather shocking things.
Now, not only was Rachael pregnant, (history repeating itself, their son Samuel 1816 was also born within months of their marriage) but Rachael was William 1760's cousin!
William 1760's youngest sister, Betty 1770 married Joseph Hutchinson and Rachael was their first born in 1795.
So William 1760 married Rachael his cousin in 1816 at Ashbourne after getting her pregnant, before returning to Borrowash/Ockbrook after Samuel was bron in Mugginton in 1816.
Theres also a bastardy case against William, a Mary Foley claimed he is the father of her child. Ive been unable to verify this, this info came from a local source. I can find no Mary Foley in any records at Borrowash/Ockbrook around 1800.
At Borrowash and Ockbrook (neighbouring villages) they had
1821 - Mary
1825 - Edwin
1826 - William
1831 - Eliza
As William 1760 died and is burried at Ockbrook, in 1830, it begs the question whether he ever saw Eliza, or even was Eliza his?
In the 1830's the family had moved to newly built cottages/terrace at Shacklecross, Borrowash.
The Millingtons also lived next door to them, so it looks like he had seduced (or raped? ) Mary who produced Jemima.
As you know, Jemima married Jesse Simms, but did you know one of their children, Charles, emigrated to Canada?
Rachael died in 1864, and is buried at Ockbrook.
Edwin is my direct ancestor, his son George met his wife also as neighbours at Shacklecross.
George 1859-1930 and Emily (Finney) are my great grandparents on my mothers side.
So we are both descended from William 1760 and Rachael.