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Worcestershire / Re: Bury Family, Worcester
« on: Tuesday 02 January 18 21:57 GMT (UK)  »
John  East---I cannot believe your claim to have got back to 1500 with your "East" family.   That would take a tremendous slice of good fortune---plus--going so far back could really only be achieved if a family was of high rank / standing---Royalty almost. Church records began in England 1538---- Records for important families / Royalty were a matter for those families and their own family archives. 
    Can you Cite ALL sources for your claim?  I seriously doubt it.   

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Worcestershire / Re: Bury Family, Worcester
« on: Saturday 16 December 17 16:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Phil,   I think you might be referring to my Bury family at Tenbury.   I can send you a Tree copy if you wish--my email in above post 
             Robert

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Worcestershire / Re: Bury Family, Worcester
« on: Friday 15 December 17 16:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Amaris,
             Been a while since I was posting here---you may have seen my posts regarding a John Bury, b abt 1789.  Over Areley Worc.   I've just been refreshing--saw your post regarding Martley connection.
  My John Bury had a son William--b 1817 Knighton on Teme.  Mother was Ann, formerly Price.
  William married Hannah Lane--born 1805.  William and Hannah both died 1884 at Martley--any connection to your interests?
   Can let you have  a copy of my Bury/Berry lot if you would like.
  regards  Robert---would need your email--- (*)

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Herefordshire / Charlotte Jones, Whitney-on-Wye
« on: Thursday 24 August 17 16:46 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,
        Can anyone help with a baptism for Charlotte Jones?  ON 1851 Census she gives her birthplace as Whitney-on-Wye,--but there is no baptism there.  From her given age in 1851, she was b 1789.    I'm assuming the family moved soon after her birth, and thus she was baptised elsewhere--if at all!
Charlotte Jones married  Edward Yapp  on 28 Dec. 1816, at Burford, Shropshire (close to Tenbury Wells, Worc,)  First known child (of 5)  was George Yapp, b 1820 at Burford, --last known Eliza Yapp b 1832 also at Burford.  Charlotte die June 1870, age 81, at Knighton-on-Teme, Worc.
   If any of you are researching Jones's---and no easy task, that--perhaps you may have stumbled on Charlotte's baptism somewhere.
  Maybe i'll get lucky!  Robbie

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Worcestershire / Re: Sarah Bury--dau of John Bury
« on: Friday 09 September 16 16:42 BST (UK)  »
You have the correct marriage for Sarah's parents---30 March 1814.  See my post of 31 Dec 2015---searching for John Bury --where I listed the whole family AS THEN KNOWN!
I'm not at all certain that James, b Down Up Farm Broadway, 1822 is of this family. No indication--yet at least--that the family were ever in Broadway.---pity there was no 1831 Census!
Also discovered later was a Harriot Bury  b at Oswestry Workhouse--to John Bury and Ann Price 1831. She has been added in, but no other info on her yet.
  I don't think there is any name mix-up.  There are two marriages in 1842  Ann Bury, dau of John Bury to George Smith, in June qtr and Sarah dau of John Bury to George Jones, Dec qtr.  I am convinced Sarah changed her age to suit different situations, and that she was b 1816.   Even if she was b 1820---why no baptism to be found for that year either.? A twin of Ann? Possible--but no indication of that either.
Illegitimate--to another member of the family--and brought up by John and Ann? Again possible,--but no indication.
The 1881 C for William and Ann (Jones) Leddington is curious too! She is given as 65 yrs old--birthyear 1816!!   Born  Eastham, which is where she was baptised 1845!!  Enumerator error or what?  Confusion!  Ann married William Leddington--"Seddington" on FreeBMD--Mar qtr 1865.  She died 1933  William 1888.
 I'm still looking for a Sarah b about 1816.

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Worcestershire / Sarah Bury--dau of John Bury
« on: Wednesday 07 September 16 16:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,  To start would just like to say that a previous post searching for John Bury of Rochford has been resolved---He was born /bt at Upper Areley, 1789.  Could not be found at Worcester RO --but at Lichfield---as Upper Areley was historically in Staffordshire.!!
Anyway, a new problem--same family.  John's daughter, Sarah Bury.
In December 1842,  she married George Jones--also b Knighton--her father's name given as John Bury.  That she was the dau of John Bury of Upper Areley origin is confirmed by  George Jones being the informant at Registration of John's death in 1850.     
I cannot find Sarah Bury's  baptism.  She is given on all Census --except '41 of course--as being born Knighton - on Teme. Her birthyear varies through the Census' from 1816-to 1821, but I think 1816 is correct.  She--and George--are on all Census' up to / incl.1881.
George died 1883.  On 1891 Census, Sarah, widow, is given as only 70 yrs old, and working as a house servant--in Knighton. Think she probably clipped a few yrs off to get work.
  She does not appear on 1901 Census.   Her death then must have been between 1891 & 1901  Census'. I would like to get her Death Certificate--but--there are a lot of candidates on FreeBMD!  Identifying the correct Sarah Jones--is complicated by not knowing where she died.
 If at place of work, Knighton, the death should have been Registered at Tenbury.  Worc. in which case she would have been Reg with incorrect age(by employers.)
   However, she had 9 children, and being Jones--you can imagine what that means--and there are a LOT of Sarah Joneses--so it's not viable to order Certificates in the hope of getting the right one--too much risk involved!!   If she left her employment, and went to live with one of her children--no telling where she might have died--and searching death indexes, would not be easy--but probably in Worcestershire.
  If anyone knows of this Sarah Bury,/ Jones b 1816 Knighton on Teme  Worcestershire, where she was baptised , do please post here.
Ideas on how to identify correct Sarah Jones  death are most welcome too.
  Cheers,
         
   
 

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Herefordshire / Re: Whitney on Wye
« on: Friday 08 April 16 21:51 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Skylark,  apologies for delay answering.  Have checked all the Jones entries--regularly--hoping for additions--There are 3 possibles, but I have no other info to add to Charlottes origins--no sibling names--if there were any.
Think she's one who I'm going to find by chance probably.

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John Bury 1787 Clifton on Teme ruled out! At age 49 he married a 17 yr old girl--and moved to Middlesex.   The search goes on.

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Herefordshire / Whitney on Wye
« on: Monday 18 January 16 10:55 GMT (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone is or has researched any Jones families of Whitney on Wye  about 1790!
  I am looking for the baptism of Charlotte Jones--according to 1861 Census at Burford,  Shropshire, she was born "Witney", Herefordshire--age 70,-- indicates a birth year of 1791.
  No baptism at Whitney  or surrounding villages. Age at death in 1870--81yrs, Tenbury, Worc.--birth 1789!
   Charlotte married Edward Yapp of Diddlebury, Shropshire, 1816 at Burford.  This was an Agriculture family so obviously travelled for work---could have been baptised anywhere---or perhaps never!  A few Charlotte Jones' on Family Search--but not this one!
On 1851 Census--Burford--she is recorded  as "Elizabeth" Yapp, widow, age 62 (Edward died 1846)  birth 1789!

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