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HI Boo,
thank you so much, you've been a great help.  Unfortunately no one in this family is able to tell me which paper printed this article.  At this stage I just feel happy to have something which may help me.
Cheers,
Pat.

She was born in Ilkeston and her address at the time of her death was 16 South St, Swanwick member of Mother’s union and Swanwick PTA

Funeral service was at St Andrew’s Swanwick

Husband was Edgar
 one son and five daughters.
Likely birth registrations for 1 son and 5 daughters between Q4 1932 and Q1 1946, Belper District for  the names listed as son and married daughters. (daughters’ married names are Elvins, Ashebrook, Lamb, Brook and Taylor)

These reports had a sort of pecking order, combine the  daughters’ married names in the mourners list with the first lot of names in the floral tributes list from Barbara and Sid down to Mary and David and you should be able to match the birth regs to the married names of the daughters and confirm their marriages and subsequent children.

If whoever sent you the clip has the original, are they able to tell you which newspaper? If they have the original ask them if they could  re-scan it at a higher resolution, at least 200 dpi, which may well help to make it easier to read.

Boo

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Hi,
Thank you so much.  I'm sure this is going  to be a great help. I really appreciate the time you have taken to transcribe this article.
Cheers
Pat.
My interpretation, though likely some are wrong.

Mourners were: Husband
Edgar, Eric Ronald Smith (son);
Mr and Mrs S Elv—-, Mr
And Mrs John A—-brook, Mrs
Shiela Lamb, Mr and Mrs K
Brooks, Mr and Mrs D Taylor
(Daughters and sons in law);
Miss Vicky A—-brook, Richard
Elv—, Eric Elv—-, Janet Elv—-,
Beverley Elv—-s (grandchildren);
Mr and Mrs J Johnson?
(Brother and sister in law); Mrs
Mary Barker, Mr and Mrs J
Mosley (sisters and brothers in
law); Mr and Mrs J Goodhall, Mr
And Mrs J Goodhall, Mr
And Mrs Donald Roberts, Mrs
 Brown, Mrs ———
—-, Mr and Mrs Ray Bowyer,
Mr and Mrs All—-son, Mr and
Mrs C C—-y (friends).

Floral tributes were a cross
Of roses from husband and
Family; Barbara [or Rebecca] and Sid,
Janet, John and Vicky, Eric and Lynn,
Shiela Pete and Neil, Ruth and
Keith, Mary and David, Ken
Evelyn and Sue; Beverley and
Ian; Eric Elvins (grandson);
Christine and Paddy; Kitty, Fred
and Grandma; Hazel, Ben and
Denise; Mr and Mrs T Lamb;
Mr and Mrs C Taylor, Mrs
To—-; Mrs B/D—— and Mrs
Walker (committee and officials
of Se—-ton C—-des Club);
Mr and Mrs DL ——
(Sky High Restaurant, S——);
Lucy, Albert, C—- and Diane;
Mrs Elvin- and Dolly; Mr and
Mrs R—-e; Tom, Jean and
Family; L—- and Don; Joe and
Vera; Mr and Mrs W Brad-
Ford and Colin, Ray, Ethel and family; loving sister Mary;
Winnie, Arthur and family.

Phew.  :P

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The Common Room / Re: Problems showing family on Genialogy Program
« on: Wednesday 22 July 20 06:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
thank you for your help. I will have a look at that program.
Cheers,
Pat


Like Guy, my program of choice is Brothers Keeper. I have been using it since the DOS days of 1994/5. It is as easy to use as PAF, if not easier, so well worth having a go with the shareware version.
If you add a child to an unmarried person the program will automatically generate a spouse of (not entered), which can be updated later if required.
For the father of the child which is registered under the name of the de-facto although it could not be his I would add a spouse of Unknown (or something similar). BK has note space which is easy to use for explanations of unusual situations.

In addition Brothers Keeper not only numbers the various spouse but it allows unmarried people to be added as partner.
Cheers
Guy

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Hi,
Thank you for your help.  Unfortunately I have no idea which paper the article appeared in. It's been a very difficult disjointed family to research, hence the need to see who the mourners were.
Cheers,
Pat.


               I can read a lot of it with difficulty but couldn't guarantee the accuracy.

      It's late now but I'll have a go tomorrow.  I think others will be able to add bits

       and together it might make sense. Do you know which Newspaper carried the

         report?. They might have it on file   You know the place and the date. I assume

           it's a local newspaper.

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Hi,
Thank you so much for your help.  Unfortunately I have no idea which paper the article appeared in.  I am trying to identify the mourners to help with the family. 
Cheers,
Pat.


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Hiabo
Thank you for your help, I do know about the main people.  It is more the rest of the mourners I am interested in to try to make sense of what has been a difficult family to trace.
Cheers,
Pat
About the best I can do I'm afraid.
POB looks like Ilkeston if it helps.
According to the 1939 register she was born 22nd. Sept. 1910.
Edgar Smith married Edith Clarke 1932.
GRO Ref.
Dec. 1932 Belper/7b/1674
Her birth is probably this one as Basford was the Reg. District for Ilkeston:
Births Sep 1910
CLARKE Edith Basford/7b/267
MMN Jowett.
You should find them in 1911 but you need the above marriage cert. to confirm.

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The Common Room / Re: Problems showing family on Genialogy Program
« on: Tuesday 21 July 20 08:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
Thank you for the info.  I am sure I shall be able to sort something out with all of these suggestions.
Cheers,
Pat

Enter the first set of children under the lady and her first husband; enter the marriage details.

For the second set of children, enter them under the lady and her "de-facto" spouse (NB Not husband!). No marriage to enter.

In all the genealogy programs I have seen, "spouse" does not have the same meaning as "husband".

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The Common Room / Re: Problems showing family on Genialogy Program
« on: Tuesday 21 July 20 08:06 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the info Graham,  I t may be time I have a look at another program.
Cheers
Pat

Like Guy, my program of choice is Brothers Keeper. I have been using it since the DOS days of 1994/5. It is as easy to use as PAF, if not easier, so well worth having a go with the shareware version.
If you add a child to an unmarried person the program will automatically generate a spouse of (not entered), which can be updated later if required.
For the father of the child which is registered under the name of the de-facto although it could not be his I would add a spouse of Unknown (or something similar). BK has note space which is easy to use for explanations of unusual situations.

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The Common Room / Re: Problems showing family on Genialogy Program
« on: Tuesday 21 July 20 08:04 BST (UK)  »
Thank you AC for your info.  I appreciate your help
Cheers
Pat

I use Legacy 7, and it very easy to add spouses to a person. It also has a section to say if the pair married or not.

One of my ancestors married 4 times, and it is no problem to add children to the main parent, and limiting them to the parent who is concerned with them.

AC

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