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The licence says that the bride is a minor and her mother (a widow) has given consent for the marriage, as the father is dead and there was no other guardian.

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This John Beckwith marriage looks promising.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFCQ-9YQ?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=MVQK-7J1

Cawthorne is only a couple of miles from West Bretton.

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Durham / Re: Census - Thomas Fynan b.1906, Gateshead
« on: Saturday 24 July 21 23:39 BST (UK)  »
The 1939 register has Alice May VOWDEN living with her son James JONES (born 6.6.1914 – died 2003), and son Joseph W. VOWDEN (born 21.6.1923 – died 1982 Southhampton) , and three others whose names have been closed from viewing due to their birth date/privacy.
One of those will probably be the son who died during WW2.

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Durham / Re: Census - Thomas Fynan b.1906, Gateshead
« on: Friday 23 July 21 23:33 BST (UK)  »
Some time after the death of Barnabus it's said his widow married again

Alice May PRATT birth registration
PRATT, ALICE  MAY     Mother’s name RYE 
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in WESTBOURNE  Volume 02B  Page 401

Birth date 13 Oct 1887
Parents: Henry PRATT and Alice RYE who were married 1875 Froxfield, Hampshire

1901 census – Alice PRATT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSNG-WKS

1891 census - Pratt family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:43WK-P3Z
1881 census  - Pratt family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-M99N

Alice Mary/May PRATT - 1st Marriage 1905 Westbourne, Sussex to Barnabas JONES

Alice M (PRATT) JONES – 2nd marriage 1917 – Alverstoke, Hampshire, to Joseph William VOWDEN (born 15 Mar 1895 South Stoneham)
More children born to Alice and 2nd husband (including a son named Gerald Bertram VOWDEN born 1925, who died in the Navy during WW2

Alice May VOWDEN death 1978, New Forest, Hampshire, age 90


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Durham / Re: Census - Thomas Fynan b.1906, Gateshead
« on: Friday 23 July 21 02:25 BST (UK)  »
Barnabas (Barney) JONES
- Private SD/3620 in  13th battalion Royal Sussex Regiment. Killed in action 24.4.1916 France

Barnabas JONES – birth registration
JONES, BARNABAS        Mother’s name: AYLING 
GRO Reference: 1884  M Quarter in WESTBOURNE  Volume 02B  Page 423
 
The son of Samuel Jones (Fisherman) and Ellen Ayling

1891 census Jones family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4DBY-K3Z


Barnabas JONES - Married 1905 Westbourne, Sussex to Alice Mary PRATT

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Midlothian / Re: Peter Kerr of Ratho, Midlothian, Scotland
« on: Tuesday 20 July 21 23:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Genni
You have done well to research the Hugh Kerr - Marg Lochead birth and marriage and eliminated him / them.

You may know that there are a couple of other births that you should probably research for elimination or not.
They are both in Leith South (not Ratho, but fairly close)

KEIR   PETER          PETER KEIR/MARGARET DAVIDSON FR2709 (FR2709)   M   
21/08/1817   692/2    80 449   Leith South


KEIR   PETER          PETER KEIR/MARGARET SMITH FR2735 (FR2735)   M   
24/11/1818   692/2    80 498   Leith South

It is quite possible that there is no birth record to be found for your ancestor. It may be one of the many records that never existed or was lost.
The fact that there is no parents named on his death certificate might be an indication that he was illegitimate. If this is the case, it might be that Kerr was Peter’s mother’s surname.

My only other suggestion would be to look in the Ratho kirk sessions around the time you are interested in, to see if there is any mention of the Kerr/ Keir name. The session minutes can be very useful in picking up illegitimate births. These are on Scotlands People here ....
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/virtual-volumes/record-creator-search/sessions-volumes?rex_uid=REX00327&related_places=GAZ00936&placename=Ratho

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Midlothian / Re: Peter Kerr of Ratho, Midlothian, Scotland
« on: Tuesday 20 July 21 10:54 BST (UK)  »
There is a tree on Anc… that has Peters parent’s as Hugh Kerr and Margaret Lochead. I don’t know where that information comes from. It would be worth your while looking at Australian BMD records or newspaper accounts for something that confirms those names and relationship. Then again it may just be wrong information.
You will find a marriage for that couple on Scotlands People in 1817, in Abbey. There are birth records for 8 of their children in Abbey and Paisley. The first born is Peter Kerr 21 May 1818.

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Australia / Re: unknown great grandad photo
« on: Tuesday 20 July 21 02:27 BST (UK)  »
This is the picture of building site that was posted on another thread. You can see that it is a sizeable building, when you see how small the workmen are in comparison.

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