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Thanks to Vance. 

Briefly, Salathiel's will:  He was a husbandman, of Appleshaw, parish of Amport, married to Jane.  He was sick. There was uncertainty, when the will was written, whether Jane was with child.  He had brothers Edward, of Shipton, Thomas and John, all with children.  Margerie Dugoe was a daughter of Edward.  Salathiel had a brother-in-law, William Ecton, of Fiefield (sic).  One of the witnesses was Mary Ecton.

You can download the will free under present arrangements.

Perhaps some kind soul will find the marriage or his baptism for you.

If not, you may well find that hearth tax returns will shed some light on this family.  Some Hampshire ones were published by the Hampshire Record Society, and Wiltshire ones by the Wiltshire Arch. & Natural History Society.  Further details on request.  They may be online, but I can't readily say where.

The word modo seems to be used when there has been a change of tenant, so perhaps it should be translated as "now", e.g. "modo Edwardus Bloggs" (= now Edward Bloggs).

Gloucestershire / Re: GEORGE BOLWELL DAVIDGE, Actor-Manager, 1793 - 1842
« on: Saturday 11 May 24 10:34 BST (UK)  »
For information about his performances on the boards, see British Library theatrical playbills:

There are a number of references to a Mr. Davidge, which you could look into.

Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Wharton coat of arms meaning .
« on: Thursday 09 May 24 11:14 BST (UK)  »
The motto is "Generosus nascitur non fit", meaning a gentleman is born one, he doesn't become one.

Thanks, David.  I agree, it does look as if the man buried was the testator in the will.

I don't see any reason to translate iuvenis as the younger here, especially considering that you weren't able to mention a Richard who might be regarded as the elder.  As already noted, junior would be the normal word for the younger.

That leaves us with the meaning of a young man, which is what I think it must be.  Perhaps, on reflection, it could be someone as old as 39.  I see from my classical Latin dictionary that it is given another meaning of "one in the prime of life" and Cicero is quoted as saying it was between the 20th and 40th year.  That's a surprise to me.  Exactly what age range the word conveyed in 17th century England I don't know.

Perhaps someone can add to this.

David, could you tell us the date when the will was written and when it was proved, please?

David, what is so special about the 1562 baptism that means it must be the person buried in 1601?  For instance, how do you know the 1562 child didn't die and a later child wasn't christened Richard?

Thanks, David.  I don't see how you have linked the burial to the 1562 baptism.  Why couldn't the person buried in 1601 have been born, in, say, 1585?

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