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The Common Room / Re: Description "lunatic" and "imbecile" on Census
« on: Sunday 16 May 21 17:20 BST (UK)  »
As a result of a previous inquiry about  child, born 1918, with severe epilepsy, kind Rootschatters told me about the Darenth Asylum.  If you follow this link

you'll find quite a lot of information re classification of the various types of mental conditions affecting both children and adults who were living there.

The child in question died 1932 from T.B. which imagine, would have been rife in an institution such as this.

The Common Room / Re: asylum fishonds bristol and bodmin
« on: Sunday 31 January 21 14:51 GMT (UK)  »
In 1991  I was seeking information on my greatx2 granduncle's wife who was admitted to Bodmin Asylum in 1854 and was advised  that the old records were held at St. Lawrence's Hospital, Bodmin, Cornwall, PL31 2QT.  Bodmin 73281 ext 5660.

I duly wrote to them and received an extremely helpful reply from the Patients Services Officer of the Cornwall and Isles of Scilly Mental Health Unit who had located Mary Oldham's records and had extracted all of the relevant information about her illness and treatment for me.  He even included details about her husband and children, including one from a previous marriage. 

I appreciate that things may have changed considerably in the intervening 30 years but it might be worth your while pursuing this line of inquiry.

Surrey / Re: Queens Road Cemetery Croydon
« on: Monday 28 December 20 16:36 GMT (UK)  »
For many years I've been seeking information re the burial/cremation of my grandfather.  He was Charles Henry Woodhams who committed suicide 21st January 1939.  He was living in S.E.17 at the time at the time but as there was a strong family connection to Croydon I thought it was worth trying there as well.  I approached the London Borough of Croydon in 1993 when the Assistant Registrar told me that there was no record of Grandad but she was able to give details of burials, in Queen's Road Cemetery Grave no:1969/V8, of other members of the family which I'm listing here in the hope it might save you a bit of research time, Lensmeister.

Josiah Woodhams of 5 Elis Davys almshouses   82 yrs   bur 6th July 1885

Philadelphia Woodhams of 5 Elis Davys Almshouses  82 yrs   bur 22nd June 1893

William Woodhams of Handcroft Road, Croydon   3 yrs   bur 8th September 1867

Francis Woodhams of 12 Handcroft Road, Croydon   3 weeks   bur 16th December 1895

Josiah and Philadelphia were my paternal Greatx2 grandparents

The Lighter Side / Re: Volunteer Fire Brigade
« on: Sunday 29 November 20 20:20 GMT (UK)  »
During the late evening and night of 5th January 1867 Croydon’s parish church was devastated by fire; the Croydon Advertiser recorded the dramatic event in these words.

"... in the excitement and hurry of getting first to the scene of the fire, everyone had forgotten to call the turncock, and 35 minutes elapsed between the call (to the volunteer fire brigade at the top of Crown Hill) and the first flow of water, the sequel being with the exception of the tower and north and south walls, the entire fabric fell a prey to the flames, and a victim to brigade mismanagement".

I believe reinforcements were called and they arrived on the last train from London!

The Common Room / Re: Help... what is this?
« on: Friday 06 November 20 20:04 GMT (UK)  »
Matthew Boulton owned the Soho Mint in  Birmingham.  Try putting " Mr Boulton's Trafalgar Medal" into a search engine. 

Time Team excavated the Mint some years ago.

The Common Room / Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« on: Friday 06 November 20 19:55 GMT (UK)  »
I have been asked to post this message.

M.J  would like to thank all Roots Chatters who noticed and responded to a photograph, signature and name and date of birth of my father John Jones.
This has given some valuable leads towards getting to  know who he was before he met my mother. Apart from a few very sketchy details from my mother his identity has always been a mystery.

The Common Room / Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« on: Friday 06 November 20 11:18 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, that's Alfred the plumber and Eliza nee Doubtfire.  Thank you for your continued interest Ladyhawk

The Common Room / Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« on: Thursday 05 November 20 13:58 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Jonw.

I sent the photos and copy signatures to MJ and this is their reply

Oh Wow!
The signatures certainly appear to belong to the same person! I don’t think there can be any doubt about it.  I am assuming Alfred is a brother.

Height – yes I think that would be about right for him. He was always shorter than Mum.

Alfred John being in an epileptic colony makes a lot of sense as MJ knows that his mother, Ellen nee Arno, was also severely epileptic.  MJ believes Alfred's cause of death was TB so if we get the certificate and that proves to be true I think that clinches it.  I note that his father's address is 74 Rendlesham Road and previously we have John at number 72. 

I will see if I can discover where the old records from Darenth are held and if the holders will release any information they have to MJ, in her capacity as Alfreds half-sibling, I doubt if they will discuss it with me.

I think this really is a triumph for Rootschatters

The Common Room / Re: Can anyone suggest which John Jones this might be?
« on: Thursday 05 November 20 11:09 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Girl Guide and Jonw, I think the combined image supports our theory that John and Alfred were brothers and knowing John's height is very helpful as is all the other information.  I wonder why John refused vaccination which, as you probably know was done by scratching the arm and dropping the vaccine on and left unsightly marks on the patients arm, my mother (born 1903) had five of the marks.  I'll get in touch with MJ and see what she thinks of the signatures and photos and if she thinks this is the right John then I think getting a death certificate for Alfred who died in 1932 might be a good move, do you agree?

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