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The Lighter Side / Re: Unusual First Names
« on: Tuesday 12 June 18 15:49 BST (UK)  »
Annie65115, My Shem and Noah were from Oxford, St Peter le Bailey to be exact. Noah had a daughter Sarah Crapper who married John Brooks and had John Hadden, Sarah (my direct ancestor),Charles Jabez, Aaron and Hannah. I love that I have a Noah in my family. I think he 's maybe my 5 or 6 great-grandfather. My grand-dad Noah. Names could be really interesting in those days! And spelling didn't matter, names were usually written by other people and changed every time. Kind of makes the made up ones of today seem dull and quite usual. Victoria

The Lighter Side / Re: Unusual First Names
« on: Tuesday 12 June 18 15:38 BST (UK)  »
Well Barryd, Ive got to say no, my Crappers are Oxford Crappers and not related, apparently to the Yorkshire ones that have a  "porcelain" involvement. I must say I was a touch disappointed... Victoria

The Lighter Side / Re: Unusual First Names
« on: Monday 11 June 18 22:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I have an Enoch Bretherton, Charles Jabez Brooks, Noah Crapper, Shem, old testament names from non-conformist families (in my case, although these names can also be Jewish in origin). This is actually a good thing because non-conformist records seem to be more thorough than conformist. Funny how Church of Scotland is the usual church past the borders but non-conformist in Manchester. Makes it easier to find my relatives in Manchester though!
Ive also seen Grizel, Lilias and Nicholas for girls names.  I guess they make a change from the usual suspects like the hated "Jean" that invariably became Janet or Jane  or "Ann" that confusingly became the same! 
Victoria Patterson

Oxfordshire / Re: John Brooks, Oxford
« on: Tuesday 24 April 18 20:51 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Jane Harrison, but my Brookes line were in the clothes cleaning business. I know my relative, daughter Sarah moved when she married, the other children were John Haddon Brooks, Charles Jabez Brooks (who became a printer I think) Aaron and Hannah Brooks. My sister Gil researched this family and the Crappers in detail but has had no luck with John Brookes. He remains a mystery! Good luck with your search for your Brookes line.  Vicky

Oxfordshire / Re: John Brooks, Oxford
« on: Tuesday 24 April 18 00:53 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Carol and Ciderdrinker, will follow those leads, hopefully I will find something. It's funny how in the search for family history there is always one troublesome ancestor in each branch!

Oxfordshire / John Brooks, Oxford
« on: Monday 23 April 18 10:44 BST (UK)  »
Brick wall, can anybody help please. Searching for baptism and parents of John Brookes who married Sarah Crapper in Oxford in 1803. Sarah was the daughter of Noah Crapper and Elizabeth Stevens. John Brooks and Sarah had five children before he died in about 1811. Many John Brooks in Oxford at that time, related to him through his daughter Sarah. Stuck. Can anyone assist please. Thanks, Vicky

Dumfriesshire / Re: Smith/Glendinning/Douglas
« on: Sunday 22 April 18 09:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi, Forgot to mention the 1841 census. James was sent to Prison in 1840. The two girls were with the Smiths on census night while Ann Douglas and the rest of the children were in Lockerbie. (Another mystery is what happened to David Douglas, 5, listed on the 1841 census but not on the 1851 ) All the children, by now orphans are living with eldest brother John Douglas, a confectioner in Dumfries. There were a herd of Smith siblings and I'm still trying to track them all. John Smith was an auctioneer and Sheriff's Officer in Annan, James Douglas became Sheriff's Officer in Lockerbie. Hope this helps, Victoria

Dumfriesshire / Re: Smith/Glendinning/Douglas
« on: Sunday 22 April 18 09:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi, my g.g grandmother was Elizabeth Douglas, daughter of Ann Smith and James Douglas who both died in 1848 from cholera. Elizabeth douglas married James Ker Paterson in 1854. I am researching the Smith family at the moment.James Smith married Jean Glendinning in 1797. James father was called James and his father was named Robert. Jeans father was called John Glendinning and thats as far as i have got. I haven't seen documentary evidence as to the parents of James Douglas. Some ancestry members put his parents as David Douglas and Jane Walker but I haven't seen a source. Its a family mystery I'm trying to solve. Cheers, Victoria

Dumfriesshire / Re: Two Marriage records? Why? Pulson-Ferguson
« on: Tuesday 10 April 18 03:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi, just read the dates and this is an addition to my reply, of course you won't have birth certificates of children born over a hundred years later, lol. But they still had to post banns in different parishes. The date of the wedding should still be recorded on the parish record from whichever parish they actually married in. Also you might find an account of fees recorded by the minister. :)

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