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Australia / Re: Gray Family - Obley NSW
« on: Sunday 22 November 20 06:17 GMT (UK)  »
I do not know anything about Jessie Graham from Obley.  However the ponderings regarding her male guardian are interesting.  The name Graham fits also with my Great Grandmother Jane Graham formerly Sinfield and I wonder if she could also be a part of this family and how she got the name Graham.  William Sinfield a convict is apparently her father and got his ticket of leave in this area.
She had her first child to Robert Gray who was a neighbour of some Graham family and my Grandmother Ada Jessie Gray was supposedly at  Bogan River.  Jane Graham Sinfield had her first  child to Robert Gray in 1861  at the age of 16 and married in 1867 at Yullundry.  A lot of this has been discussed previously.

I think it is too much a coincidence for there not to be some connection.

Will try and investigate this Graham male if he was part of the Dubbo police.

A can of worms

Jill Hargraves

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Australia / Re: Gray Family - Obley NSW
« on: Saturday 23 May 20 05:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi Deb, sorry no this is not the same Ada Gray that you are looking for.  Her name is Ada Jessie Gray and lived all her life in the Dubbo/Obley/Peak Hill area of NSW.

Her parents were Robert Gray and Jane Graham Sinfield.

Sorry cannot help.

Jill Hargraves

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Australia / Re: Gray Family - Obley NSW
« on: Tuesday 13 March 18 06:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

My grandmother was Ada Jessie Gray.  She married Arthur John White on 25 October 1893.  Her father was Robert Gray, labourer of Glenrock or more likely Glenlock (it looks like Glenrock written on the marriage certificate) near Obley and her mother was Jeannie on the marriage certificate.  They were married in the house of Mr Robert Gray.  And I believe the photograph you refer to is most likely this wedding.

On the death certificate of Ada Jessie it is stated that her mother's name was Sarah Sinclair not Jeannie so a little confusion there.  Also Sinclair?

So is this Robert Gray the one male child (1861) to Robert Gray and Jane Sinfield? The years don't seem to add up.  If Robert was born in 1861 and had a daughter old enough to marry in 1893?  He would only have been 32 years of age himself.  Or is this the elder Robert Gray who you say was born in London in 1839 which would make him 59 years of age in 1893 when this marriage took place.  However I have been unable to find any record of the birth of a daughter Ada Jessie to either Robert Gray.

On the birth certificate of her third child in 1899 Ada Jessie White (Gray) informs her birth place as Bogan River and her age as 24 therefore she would have been 17 or 18 when she married Arthur John White.

Well we are definitely related.  Which child of Robert Gray and Jane Graham Sinfield is your great grandparent?

Hope you can shed a bit more light on this.  In the meantime I will try and dig some more

Cheers,

Jill Hargraves (nee White)










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