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Armed Forces / Re: British Army Service Records
« on: Wednesday 05 March 14 16:29 GMT (UK)  »
I have those 2 records on the site you indicate. It is the entry at the beginning of service I am really needing. No records for this family in Derbyshire either. Some saying they have been destroyed, so no help there! The discharge one I got from Findmypast for 1873.

I have all other info for him and his  family, just the piece missing on his birth details and sign up date and place.

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Armed Forces / British Army Service Records
« on: Wednesday 05 March 14 13:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all.

After many years of searching, and a lot of help from others, I have at last found the Discharge Record of William Woodruff in 9 Oct 1873 in Ireland. Not appeared before.

Also, would he have been signed up in Ireland with him being discharged there, not Bombay.

Now I am wondering if anyone can tell me info on his entry into this Regiment.
Buffs (East Kent Regiment) - 3rd Foot. WO121. Corporal.

I particularly wish to know as he is my great grandfather and I can find nothing about him or his parents/siblings before 1857 when he joined the HEIC in Liverpool, and was then transferred to British Army in 1859/60 in Bombay. He says on all census from 1871 that he was born in Glossop Derbyshire. He was married in Limerick Ireland.

Regards,
Margaret


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Well I never!! I had forgotten that thread JM. Must be getting old. ;D

However, I have now got some concrete evidence for William and his wife. They separated about 1903, he having left her and she had to go into the workhouse with children. It is in the newspaper for Dover so that solves that little problem. But that still leaves his death!!!! ???

My thanks to you for looking for me.
Kind regards,
Calmar
 :)

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Neil, I do not want to give up but my efforts to find him have not been conclusive and it also seems that others are having the same problems as I have done! :(.

Just to give a brief summary to interested parties who like a challenge!

John William was actually born in Gibraltar in 1864 when his father (William) was a soldier in the 3rd Reg of Foot (The Buffs).

Mary, his wife, died in 1952 in Kent.
Parents both died in Sheffield, Yorkshire, William, his father in 1918 and Mary, his mother in 1893.
He wasn't with them when they moved to Sheffield and I haven't found him in  this area with my searches for other siblings.

The two sisters in USA are Ravina?Rovina born Dublin 1868 and Ada Kathleen born Dover 1874.  Ada came back to Dover  a couple of times with her husband and her daughter. No sign of him then.

I appreciate all help given and will keep looking myself, but my experience is not brilliant so the need to ask you lovely people out there to assist me.

Kind regards,
Calmar
 :)

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Thank you all very much for your observations on my gt uncle, the rascal!!!

You seem to have come to the same conclusions as myself, ie can't say for definite where he lived and died after 1905 when he left his wife and children. I am now leaning towards Rosball's comment in that he may have moved around in the English ports/towns and I suppose could have moved as far as London area. BUT I haven't found a death for him so far, hence my trying the Australian search.

The chap William Charles in NE England is not mine. I traced a William Woodruff from that area also who did not fit either.

William was actually christened John William but is always referred to as William when he reached maturity.

In 1901 he is listed as a Navvy on census so if he  continued that line of work he could have moved around quite a lot!! I had wondered if he was still a reserve for the forces as well, but nothing shows for him. 1891 has him as a Ships Stoker.

He was also not with his father in 1901 in Sheffield. He did have two sisters who went to USA but does not appear to be living with either of them at this time.

Again my thanks for your responses. Looks like it will have to be left - death not known.

Kind regards,
Calmar

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Hello Neil.

Yes I do have his parents names. They are William Woodruff and Mary Browne. Mary was born Ireland and William born Derbyshire.

Regards,
 :)

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Australia / William Woodruff sailed to Australia in 1905, I am looking for his death
« on: Monday 11 November 13 13:17 GMT (UK)  »
Any help need to trace this man's death.

Possibly in Australia as he sailed from Dover Kent in 1904 as a ships steward, so paid his way across. He was born 1864 in Gibraltar and lived with his wife Mary Strood until 1901 census in Dover Kent, which is where I am struggling to trace him

Mary  was housekeeper in 1911 to another man, but no sign of William.

There is a 1914 record for a  William Woodruff in Wilmot Tasmania, Could this be him.
It doesn't help me when both country or date is not shown on these Electoral rolls!

Regards,
Desperate,
Calmar :)

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Kent / Re: Looking for death of William Woodruff b 1864.
« on: Monday 11 November 13 09:34 GMT (UK)  »
14 October 1904 Mary Woodruff asks for a separation order from William Woodruff on the grounds of desertion . He left her 14 months earlier.
Hope it helps explain why he is not with the family in 1911.
Regards panda

This is a new fact for me Panda! Can you tell me where you obtained this info from please. It would certainly explain why William is missing after 1901 census.  Would this explain her photo with a number she is holding? I wondered if she had been in the Workhouse or similar place but didn't find any record for that.

Mary  died In St Augustine's Hospital Chartham, Kent in April 1951.

I also found the record for Australia but couldn't find a death in Australia. It makes me think that this is him as he doesn't show up in any records in England after 1901, census or army.

Yes he was  a Navvy at some point after leaving the army.

My thanks to you all for looking.

Regards,
Calmar

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Kent / Looking for death of William Woodruff b 1864.
« on: Sunday 10 November 13 16:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I cannot find William after 1901 census in Dover with his wife Mary and family. She is showing as Housekeeper in 1911 with the children plus others born after 1901.

William was a Stoker in 1901.
Any help  would be most appreciated.
Calmar
 :)

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