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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: St. Peter's, Leeds, RILEY/ATHA marriage 1827
« on: Thursday 05 July 18 00:45 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: arthurk on Saturday 30 June 18 16:54 BST (UK)
Just realised that Yorkshire Indexers have an index to baptisms at Bramley St Peter's - it looks like it might be the only baptism set that they have, but also that it might be available without a subscription. It's at
http://www.yorkshireindexers.info/forum/db/parish_baptisms.php?tabid=40

Looking at this, there were quite a number of Rileys, but I didn't see Martin.
arthurk, I haven't had a chance to check that out yet, but I just wanted to say that I have gotten the death record for Martin - definitely his record! 

"Superintendent Registrar's Record, Hunslett; Registrar's District Kirkstall: Died, Fifteenth of June, 1855, Male, 48 years, Clothier; Cause of death: Phthisis Pulmonasis (TB) 14 months certified; Austin Riley present at death Waterloo Lane Bramley; Registered 15th June 1855; James Rawson, Registrar"

I'm quite chuffed about this :-).

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: St. Peter's, Leeds, RILEY/ATHA marriage 1827
« on: Saturday 30 June 18 17:02 BST (UK)  »
I'll give it a go. If nothing else it will be interesting.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: St. Peter's, Leeds, RILEY/ATHA marriage 1827
« on: Saturday 30 June 18 16:34 BST (UK)  »
Yes, there are so many Rileys that the indices are pretty much useless for me, at least for the moment.   Just not enough info there for me to verify that it's the person I'm searching for so that I'm confident in following up (and possibly spending money) on it. I'm working my way through some of the registry images over at A* page by page. I'm pretty good at handwriting and have run across more than one instance of a tired/distracted/inahurry transcriptionist putting down a best guess which was nowhere close. I also ran across one instance where a page was skipped transcribing completely.

I've only been doing this for a few months, my sister works on it off and on, but I think she's more interested in our mum's McGlothlin side so I've left that bit to her while I concentrate on trying to x-verify the Riley connections she's come up with.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: St. Peter's, Leeds, RILEY/ATHA marriage 1827
« on: Saturday 30 June 18 14:26 BST (UK)  »
True, arthurk, I was working from Sarah being listed as "present at death" on Annabella's death record. But happily it did help to narrow down the range a bit on her DoD.


Quote from: Calverley Lad on Saturday 30 June 18 08:49 BST (UK)
RoseHawke: When it comes to the burial records for Bramley some of the records are hard to trace?


Tell me about it. Especially when trying to do something like this from 4,000 miles away! Although I suppose I shouldn't fuss, as recently as 20 years ago this would have been difficult if not impossible. Oh, and thank you for those links, Brian. I take it the war memorial folks keep the photo archives? I will definitely join the "Memories of Bramley" FB group. I'm also doing a bit of reading on the wool industry at that time as it seems the entire area was geared toward that.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: St. Peter's, Leeds, RILEY/ATHA marriage 1827
« on: Friday 29 June 18 21:54 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: suzard on Friday 29 June 18 21:45 BST (UK)
there is a tree on An*****y which has Oliver dieing 1843 in Ontario Canada?????

Suz
Different Oliver.

The .pdf of the death record I've got on him says DoD 8th August, 1843 at Bramley, name Oliver Riley son of Martin Riley Clothier, Martin present at death. Which, although macabre, gave me clue that Sarah must've been gone by then as I can't see her not being at her son's side at that time unless something was very wrong.



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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: St. Peter's, Leeds, RILEY/ATHA marriage 1827
« on: Friday 29 June 18 21:48 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: heywood on Friday 29 June 18 21:06 BST (UK)
Now I was thinking that Martin was not that common for Yorkshire but when I look it is  ::)

Martin gives his birth as Bramley and the family are living there.

1841 shows 69 Rileys in Bramley in 1841.

Your Martin is living Top of Town. There is a family with John and Jane as parents living in Town Street who have a son, Martin. It is worth noting just in case.
Mind you all of Bramley might live around a Town Street  ;)

Yep. Most of my life I thought we were Irish, until my sister gave me an a******y DNA test for a birthday gift. Although I realize they're more of a general guideline than anything, it came back showing no Irish ancestry at all and that apparently I/we were more British than the average Brit by quite a goodly percentage. That's when I started looking into all this - and discovered a new hobby - and also discovered all the Yorkshire Rileys and that the name has English roots. I'm trying to get at least 3 points of agreement before I decide a record belongs to my ancestor, but it's difficult and I've a lot of "tentative" notations. It's a pretty fair bet I've got distant Riley/Atha/Austin relatives in the Leeds area. Perhaps some day I'll get to look them up.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: St. Peter's, Leeds, RILEY/ATHA marriage 1827
« on: Friday 29 June 18 21:42 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: suzard on Friday 29 June 18 21:29 BST (UK)
(...)

1841 Martin is a widower  jst has 2 eldest children with him -do you know where the youngest children were??

Could they be with family?

Suz

Dead, unfortunately  :(. Annabella died 1841 of Scarlatina (scarlet fever), and Oliver died 1843 of hydrocephalus. I invested in the death certificates as I was 90% sure I had the right ones.

ETA: Both children were under the age of two at death.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: St. Peter's, Leeds, RILEY/ATHA marriage 1827
« on: Friday 29 June 18 21:01 BST (UK)  »
Drat. I suspected such would be the case. At this point I suppose the best I can do is search for some sort of baptism/christening record although verifying that it's the <i>right</i> Martin Riley is going to be iffy at best since it appears the name Martin is not all that uncommon. At least most people tended to pretty much stay put back then although within a year of his Father's death in 1855 son Austin apparently sold out and emigrated to America. Oh, well, thank you very much for your help.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / St. Peter's, Leeds, RILEY/ATHA marriage 1827
« on: Friday 29 June 18 20:31 BST (UK)  »
Apologies up front if I'm not doing this correctly, I'm very new at this.

I'm trying to pin down my English ancestry. I've taken the Riley side back to MARTIN RILEY, clothier, b. ca 1806, and his wife SARAH nee ATHA b. ca 1811. I'm fairly sure I've got her parents and family, (Atha/Austin) but can't find anything much on him. The info I do have on their marriage is one of those infamous "text only" deals over at a******y, but it does give a date and place - Saint Peter's, Leeds, York, England; 15 October, 1827. What I really want is his parents' names although I suppose that's something of a long shot from a marriage record. I've searched very hard for some way I can find this info myself but it's been for nought.

I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks!

ETA: following custom. You'll note "that place" is no longer spelled out ;).

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