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Scotland / Re: John Richardson
« on: Tuesday 05 February 19 09:56 GMT (UK)  »
Absolutely, thank you very much 👍

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Travelling People / Re: Looking for SMITH family - Gypsy's ??
« on: Tuesday 05 February 19 09:27 GMT (UK)  »
My Greatgrandmother was MARTHA SMITH (born abt 1872) and came from a clan of Gypsy's named SMITH who lived in the Nottinghamshire or Staffordshire area.  They were headed by ESAU and HENTY SMITH who may have been her parents or grandparents.  The group were about 50 in number and owned their own land.  Does anyone recognise this family?

Yes, I recognise them, Henty & Esau are my great great great grandparents through their granddaughter May (Sarah May)

I’ve been searching for my nan’s father for years, it’s a family secret... her step father is George Hambleton but her real father is a mystery. I wonder if anyone here knows???

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Scotland / Re: John Richardson
« on: Tuesday 05 February 19 09:12 GMT (UK)  »
Now I think I’ve narrowed it down I need to search a bit more to see if George and Jean are Johns parents. Are the Scottish records arranged in a similar fashion to the English ones? I don’t even know where to start 🤔

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Scotland / Re: John Richardson
« on: Tuesday 05 February 19 07:50 GMT (UK)  »
I know, I’ve used ancestry for quite a few years and know the pitfalls well. I’ve also had to make a few leaps of faith based on hunches which have usually proved correct. My mum was a smith, my dad a smith, my mum’s mum was born a smith, my mum’s grandfather is a smith, her dad was a Smith. Plus they had a propensity for marrying their cousins! Sometimes you just have to read between the lines 🙄

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Scotland / Re: John Richardson
« on: Monday 04 February 19 22:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Monica, thanks for the reply. I’ve been looking at the George/Jean connection. John & Marthas first two children were George and Jane (sometimes Jean) so I’m willing to take a leap of faith that this is him. Also when I searched ancestry for this family, someone’s tree mentioned that his death date was after 1835... this is when he left Scotland for Gloucester and met Martha. I think this is him

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Scotland / Re: John Richardson
« on: Monday 04 February 19 14:17 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for trying 👍

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Scotland / Re: John Richardson
« on: Monday 04 February 19 13:27 GMT (UK)  »
Well that’s more than I’ve found in a dogs age!!! Just need to find his parents in Scotland now...

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Scotland / Re: John Richardson
« on: Monday 04 February 19 13:20 GMT (UK)  »
I think George... does it show if he’s with his wife Martha at that address?

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Scotland / John Richardson
« on: Monday 04 February 19 12:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone

Having real problems with 3x great grandfather, John Richardson.

I first found him in the 1851 census for Birmingham along with his wife Martha and their children. He is a machinist, I think he probably made pens. He married Martha Haines In Gloucestershire on 10 December 1837.

Try as I might I can’t find any record of him before this. I know from the census he was born in Scotland in 1803 but that’s about it.

Can anyone help?

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