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Hi everyone, I'm back on rootschat (been away from it for quite a while!) & recently came across some information from familysearch.org to confirm the above quote. Harry & Alice had a daughter, their first-born, in 1900, named Gladys May Rumble. She died as an infant, barely a month old.

Regards 😊

I should have put up the links to confirm the details of Gladys. Here they are:-

https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=BMD/B/1900/2/AZ/000519/101&expand=true

https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=R_21918655280

https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=BMD%2FNBI%2F08472124

Regards :)

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On the above 1950 ER you will see a William H Inchley living with an Alice F Snow.

In 1927 Harry & Alice May had a son William H, he is the William H who appears with Alice F in 1950 & 55.

He wouldn't have been eligible to vote until 1948 so 1950 is the first time he will appear.


Hi everyone,

I'm not sure if this was posted before, but here are details of William's birth from findmypast:-

https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=BMD/B/1927/2/AZ/000639/134&expand=true

Here are details of his death in 2007 from findmypast as well:-

https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=GBOR/BIRM/BURS/0001003&expand=true

There is also a marriage record for a William Inchley & Jill Wilson, married in 1947, possibly the same William living with his grandmother Alice F Snow in 1950:-

https://www.findmypast.com.au/transcript?id=BMD%2FM%2F1947%2F1%2FAZ%2F000585%2F083

Regards :)

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CALLING ALL DESCENDANTS OF MAURICE HENRY HALES, BORN 1879, BIRMINGHAM, UK!!

Hi everyone,

I am trying to find out what happened to a MAURICE HENRY HALES (probably also known as Harry Hales, born 1879, of Birmingham, UK), particularly around the period 1909/1910 - 1914/1915. For the purposes of this thread, I'll use the name "Harry Hales" to save typing out his full name. By way of background, I'm including the following information:-

14.  The 1939 Register indicated a Frederick Hales, his wife Florence, and two children living at 17 Barn Lane, Solihull. This address is apparently now Akamba Heritage Centre.

15.  The 1939 Register indicated an Elsie Maud Hales, married to Harry R Harris, and three children living at 84 Riversdale Road, Birmingham.

Regards  :)
Hi everyone,

I've been away from rootschat for quite some time, but have decided to rejoin & catch up with any research.

The points regarding Frederick Hales & Elsie Maud Hales in the above-mentioned quote are incorrect. Those two Hales individuals belong to completely different families.

So I'm still trying to find any info on the Frederick (b. 1906) & Elsie (b. 1909) born to Harry Hales & Minnie Eva Inchley.

Harry Inchley (b. 1903) is on the 1939 register living in Coventry as a boarder, with Mr & Mrs Kemp.

Regards😊

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In 1911 Harry is with Alice in Birmingham and using the name Rumble. They have 5 children. There  was another one who died.

Emeltom
Hi everyone, I'm back on rootschat (been away from it for quite a while!) & recently came across some information from familysearch.org to confirm the above quote. Harry & Alice had a daughter, their first-born, in 1900, named Gladys May Rumble. She died as an infant, barely a month old.

Regards 😊

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Hi Nodrog50,

On the 1921 Census copy, do you think it's safe to assume that the person who wrote "mother dead" next to Leslie Rundle's entry, "father dead" next to Elsie Hales' entry, plus the amendments to the other children's entries was Harry Rundle himself? I suppose there's no way of ever really knowing who made the amendments.

I came across this information on Arthur Holden & Sons Ltd., Birmingham:-

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Arthur_Holden_and_Sons

Harry Hales Jnr. most likely was not working there any more when this photo below was taken (1930's). He was off to Coventry after his wife died in 1933. On Google Maps, the building still looks almost exactly the same now as it did back then:-

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/images/a/ae/Im1930sArthurHolden.jpg

I came across these advertisements for Howes & Burley:-

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/images/9/9f/Im0804CWAJ-Howes1.jpg ; and

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/images/f/f5/Im1900AV5-Howes_and_Burley.jpg

Those brass lamps look really lovely, like the old saying, "they don't make them like they used to"!

Enjoy yourself at the 150th anniversary celebrations of the emigration homes. If you take any photographs, you're welcome to post them on here, if you wish.

Regards  :)


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Hi Nodrog50,

It's good to hear from you again!

Yes I noted the confusion, and sent "Jensam" a personal message to correct a few things.

At least now we have a connection to the Canada side of the family, and possible further information about whatever happened to Harry Hales may be forthcoming in the future.

It appears as though the user "Missgalaxy" (to whom I sent the previous same long message as yourself) has their inbox showing as "full" so I'll try sending it again until they receive it.

Thank you for the 1921 Census entry. As I'm having a little trouble reading it (even after enlarging the text!) could you confirm the following please:-

1. The title of the 2nd column is "Relationship to Head of Household" - what does it say next to Minnie Hales (under Harry Rundle) - "housekeeper"?;

2. I can't quite read the title of the 5th column, however, next to Harry Rundle's entry it looks like "widower" and next to Minnie Hales' entry it looks like "widow"? It's hard to believe next to Leslie Rundle's entry it says "Mother dead" - jim1 had discovered Alice Maud died in 1936! Like you said, Alice was "very much alive in 1921"!

3. The very last entry at No. 9 seems to read "no name" or "not named", a son - that entry would be my maternal grandfather, Joseph John Rundle.

Frederick Hales (2nd son of Minnie Inchley and Harry Hales) is missing from this Census entry. He was born in 1906, making him 15 years old at the time.

Did finding out that your grandmother's brother Leslie was on this Census come as a surprise to you? It's quite possible then that some of Alice Maud's other children spent some time with Harry Rundle and Minnie Inchley, maybe Nellie as well.

Regards  :)

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Hi Jensam,

I'm not sure if you've seen these before regarding your grandmother Ethel:-

http://www.britishhomechildrenregistry.com/Person/bhcInfo/19689

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/211686929/ethel-mary-spinney

This one is for her sister Minnie:-

http://www.britishhomechildrenregistry.com/Person/bhcInfo/66883

Regards  :)

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Hi Jensam,

I hope you've had a chance to read the other messages I sent you recently, including the rather lengthy thread on Harry Rundle which includes bits and pieces of information on Maurice Henry Hales.

Did your grandmother recall anything about her father at all, any information she may have passed on to your own mother or even yourself?

He appears to be quite an elusive character from about 1909/1910 onwards. The only seemingly concrete evidence that he died between 1909/1910 - 1923 was the fact that on our great-grandmother Minnie's death certificate, it was stated she was a widow.

His older brother Frederick ended up in living in Coventry, as did his & Minnie's first-born son (born in 1903), Harry Jr., after his wife died. It leaves me wondering whether Coventry was the place Maurice Henry Hales ended up in too, and he perhaps died there.

Regards  :)

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Hi Jensam, thank you so much for replying!

I haven't been on RootsChat since last year, but will try to keep in touch as often as possible. What prompted me today to log in was coming across an email that mentioned free access to Australian, NZ and UK military records until tomorrow (Tuesday) lunchtime. So I thought I'd better take advantage of that and see what else I can find!

My maternal grandfather was Joseph John Rundle, the youngest child of Harry Rundle and Minnie Eva Inchley. Harry Rundle is my maternal great-grandfather. Stanley was 4 years older than Joseph, and as far as I'm aware, Stanley stayed in the UK. Only Minnie, Ethel and Joseph were sent to Canada and Australia, respectively. Joseph died in 1984. Stanley died quite young I believe, in his mid-20's.

Keep in touch if you wish, and any further information you can provide will be very welcome.

Regards  :)


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