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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Barnard 1886 - 1951 Harriet Lee 1887 - 1944
« on: Wednesday 02 September 20 18:16 BST (UK) »Gary, I'm not connected to family in any way, just help out when I can.
There are a number of trees on Ancestry that show Louisa as Louisa Elizabeth Balls but that's incorrect - like yourself I believe that she was a Louisa Gaskin/variants.
I found one of the trees was in fact yours - the 1875 marriage you show is incorrect (the bride in that case was a Harriet Matilda Fryer). In fact, I don't think Charles and Louisa went through a 'legal' marriage - probably just a gypsy ceremony.
You show their daughter Matilda as bc.1890 but this should be c.1882
You don't show 1891 Census which was also in name of Barnett at 12 Eaton Place, Edmonton:
Charles Barnett 26??? General Labourer born N.K. (?)
Louisa Barnett 36 Fruit Hawker born Norwich, Norfolk
Matilda Barnett 9 born Gravesend, Kent
Job Barnett 8 born Edmonton
John Barnett 6 born Edmonton
William Barnett 2 born Edmonton
I think that these are some of the birth entries:
Matilda Gaskin Mar.qtr.1882 Gravesend - illeg. (per GRO's Index)
Job Barnard Mar.qtr.1884 Edmonton - mmn Garskin
William Barnard Dec.qtr.1889 Edmonton - mmn Garskin
Rose Barnard Sept.qtr.1900 Bromley - mmn Gascoine
Can't find matching birth entries for John, Betsy or Jane.
Looks like Job becomes Joseph in 1901.
Think this is Louisa's baptism:
Louisa Gasker bp.9/11/1856 Diss, Norfolk - dau. of James (hawker) and Abigail.
1851 Census, Kesgrave, Suffolk
James Gaskin 50 Hawker, Brooms and Brushes birthplace blank
Abigail Gaskin 40 ditto ditto
Caroline Gaskin 16 born Hatfield, Essex
William Gaskin 14 born Cataway (?), Suffolk
Jane Gaskin 12 born Colchester, Essex
Sally Gaskin 10 born Timber Log Lane, Essex
James Gaskin 7 born Penny Broke, Essex
Thomas Gaskin 5 born Halstead, Essex
Mary Ann Gaskin 3 born Ingatestone, Essex
Found baptism for some of the children:
Caroline Gascoine bp.8/2/1835 Hatfield Peveral, Essex, dau. of James (hawker) and Abigail
Mary Ann Gaskin bp.19/9/1847 Halstead, Essex ditto
William Gaskin bp.21/5/1837 Lawford, Essex ditto
George Gaskin bp.4/4/1852 Woodbridge, Suffolk ditto
Thomas Gaskin bp.16/11/1845 Gt. Blakenham, Suffolk ditto
Jane Gascoigue b.1/12/1839, bp.8/12/1839 Berechurch, Essex ditto
As you can see, baptisms not always in places where stated they were born.
Found 3 of the births in GRO index and this shows Abigail's maiden name was Lamb.
The 1851 census is the only one I can find the Gaskin's in.
Charles Barnard was a plain Charles, and as you say, son of William and Sarah - Sarah's maiden name was Whipps.
Hope this helps.
Annette
Hi Annette
had a bit of time to get my head around things now
Everything up to Joseph being changed as Job fits 100% .....many thanks.
The Middle section does not fit at all as far as I can see.
However the last section almost fits perfect except from I got Charles middle name as (F) from somewhere and a long time since I did any any research...which is a real shame as the paternal Romany and the Maternal Irish sides of my family interest me very much, and I tried to work the Romany side out before my late dad passed as he was extremely proud of his Romany roots.
Once again many thanks for your help
Gary