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The Lighter Side / Re: Genealogy on TV - new approach needed
« on: Sunday 26 November 06 15:04 GMT (UK)  »
This was done many years ago by Gordon Honeycombe ITV presenter who also wrote a book about how he went about his research.

Jean


Jean

My goodness, was that an old series or television programme?  I last remember seeing Gordon Honeycombe reading the news, when I was a youngster!

Sounds like it should be updated (the sources of finding the information) and repeated  :)

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The Lighter Side / Re: Genealogy on TV - new approach needed
« on: Tuesday 21 November 06 10:15 GMT (UK)  »
Hey Kerry, maybe we should patent this idea  :P

We'd all have enough brick walls to build a castle!! lol  :)

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The Lighter Side / Re: Genealogy on TV - new approach needed
« on: Tuesday 21 November 06 10:08 GMT (UK)  »
Kerry

What I forgot to put in my post was that each programme should have a celebs doing the research - maybe getting some of those back who were hooked after a previous series....

Well I suppose we can dream !! ::)

Julie

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The Lighter Side / Re: Genealogy on TV - new approach needed
« on: Monday 20 November 06 09:24 GMT (UK)  »
I must admit I agree with a lot of you saying that the last series seemed more about who could travel the furthest!

I really loved the first series because it told you how to find out the information via the red button or you could follow up with another programme with Adrian Childs. 

Now everyone just walks around collecting a brown envelope or looks like they are taking their dogs into the PRO :o

IMHO the BBC have trivialized the hard work needed to find out the research material and they no longer show you how to find it.  There have been a couple of shots of people looking at census's online but that's it.  I think it just makes people think they can pop in and pick up their family tree from a library or record office and make it look easy.

OK, I hear you say so what could a tv programme do to make it better?

How about a six part series tracing a family's ancestors and yes our Ag Labs and mill workers who are reality for most of us, but each programme concentrating on say week 1 - births, marriages and deaths, 2 - census's, 3 - parish records, 4 - wills and probate, 5 - military history and 6 - making the best use of the resources available, i.e records offices, local history societies, libraries etc.

Just a thought for any of you budding tv producers out there  ;)

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England / Re: My brick walls!
« on: Friday 25 August 06 13:02 BST (UK)  »
Pru

Easily done, you have to look for both, cos Harry was born and married as Tolmie, but in the census he was Randolph!

Doh families  ::)

Julie  :)

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England / Re: My brick walls!
« on: Friday 25 August 06 12:55 BST (UK)  »
Dear Pru

I have copies of the images here which I am trying to post but it says they are too big to send here.  I have emailed them before no problems, I am concerned I am causing you a lot of unnecessary problems and it isn't even your family!! :-[

1881 Wales (forgot it was there!) RG 11/5317 and it us under the name of Randolph and they are in Merthyr Tydfel.

1891 England - Randolph - living at 38 York Street, Southampton

1901 England - Randolph - but head is Priscilla H Randolph as John is missing

Hope this helps, I do feel  :-[

Julie

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England / Re: My brick walls!
« on: Friday 25 August 06 10:02 BST (UK)  »
Dear Prue

Thank you for your welcome, it's taken a long time to pluck up the courage to send this post, which has had be stumped for ages!  :)

I have always ordered certificates from the GRO and assumed that a visit to the PRO was necessary for the overseas reference, so thank you for the link.

The census ref's are as follows:

1901 - RG 13/1054 - pages 31 &32 (John Randolph Tolmie (Father) is missing from this one)

1891 - RG12/913 - page 29

1881 - RG 11/5317/89 page 1 (But this is unreliable as the names fit but the places of birth don't - Harry was born in Lymington, Hampshire - not Scotland, John as far as I know was born in Scotland, not Ireland and Honor was Priscilla Honor and I have no record of Lillia! This info is from the IGI)

Thank you for helping to look for my elusive Harry and his even more elusive Father John!  :D

Julie

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England / My brick walls!
« on: Thursday 24 August 06 21:09 BST (UK)  »
I have been researching my family history for may years and reading posts here for a long time and I wondered if anyone could help me with any suggestions to help me through my brick walls, it’s a bit complicated!

My Great Grandfather was born Harry Albert Randolph Tolmie on 7th November 1880 in Lymington, Hampshire, to John Randolph Tolmie and Priscilla Honor Tolmie (formally Cartridge.)  I have information from the 1881, 1891 and in the 1901 census he was a photographer.  Harry married Beatrice Ellen Woodman on 22 September 1903 in Southampton and he was still a photographer.  My Grandmother was born in April 1907, and on her birth certificate his occupation was Ships Cook – a bit of a drastic change from a photographer in four years! 

My Father tells me that he recalls being told that Harry was in the Merchant Navy and died in San Francisco, he thinks whilst my Grandmother was very young, if born at all. It is believed that Harry wasn’t bought home because he died on land and the family could not afford to bring his body home.  This is my first wall – finding out if any of this is correct.  I understand it may be possible to find out by visiting the PRO to find a reference of his death overseas and then maybe apply for his death certificate?

To be able to find out any of this you obviously have to use a surname and this is where my other walls come in!!

Up until 1907 when my Grandmother was born Harry’s surname was Tolmie, but for some reason on her birth certificate the Tolmie is missing and Randolph has been used as the surname instead, for Father, Mother and child.  This may have something to do with that when Harry was born he was registered as Tolmie, as was his Father John Randolph Tolmie, but then his seven brothers and sisters that followed just had the surname Randolph, no Tolmie. Why did he drop the surname he was born with and married and used and how could he just change it?

So, I am looking for Harry Albert Randolph Tolmie / Randolph /  Randolph-Tolmie.

Confused – it’s taken a while to sort this out to be able to put it into words!  Any thoughts?


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