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Travelling People / Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« on: Sunday 20 December 20 22:01 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 17 October 20 22:14 BST (UK)
He appears to be with the Angel family in Yarmouth in 1891 and 1901, and potentially in 1881 (if transcribed as Angel). However I can't see any obvious connection with the Seagos

Interestingly there is an Emily Maria Seago b Beccles - she and the family are living in Newington, London in 1871 and she married before 1881

Hi Mabel, where did you get the information for the Angel family if you don't mind me asking?  And do you think Emily is his mum?  I have done my Ancestry DNA so it may show up at some point, but this is really interesting. x

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Travelling People / Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« on: Sunday 20 December 20 21:07 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much for this information everyone, I have just worked out how to update my Ancestry, I had a wrong link in there, so Elizabeth Dodman is now in her rightful place, along with parents. I have also had my DNA done, but am not a lot further to my Romany links. x

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Travelling People / Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« on: Saturday 24 October 20 22:24 BST (UK)  »
Thank you again Mabel and Carole, I can't see the Angels at all, but I'm only going on Ancestry hints as I am extremely new to finding info and don't get a lot of how you find things.  Or I just get very confused going round in circles. 
Carole you said about Emma having a will, I clicked on the link you gave and entered the details of Emma Seago, 1929 and it can't find a death.  I went one or two years a side with the date as well.
Thank you so much for the information both, I will try and work it out in my own head.  I also have done my DNA now today, so in 6 or so weeks may have more clue.
Kind Regards,
x

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Travelling People / Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« on: Sunday 18 October 20 01:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Carole/Mabel,

Many thanks, I have got Fredericks Birth Certificate, he is my Great Grandfather.  He was a Marine Engine Driver.  It list's Emma as his mother, although his Naval records show Emily as you said.  It's me that's put the info on Ancestry, was all I had at the time, but someone had mentioned an Angel to me, although I couldn't find anything, and your theory is fascinating Carole.  I don't have much of a clue what I'm doing, so I may have got the whole line wrong from there backwards.  I know I am right up to Frederick.  Also on the Holmes side (My grandad) is right, hopefully right back as I share tree's with a few people there.   I really appreciate you all looking for me. x

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Travelling People / Re: Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 19:39 BST (UK)  »
Wow, thank you everyone so much, I will work through all these, I am stuck as to where my Romany lies but will keep looking, and maybe the DNA will show in a few weeks.  Either way, this is all amazing information, to know my ancestry is extremely important to me at the moment for some reason. xx

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Travelling People / Elizabeth Ward/Youngs 1833 - Great Great Grandmother
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 11:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I'm looking for help on Elizabeth Ward, she was my Great Great Grandmother. 
I seem to have a few choices on Ancestry of who she might have been..
Another name could be Frances Elizabeth.
Married Robert Youngs, although could be Robert Carrs Youngs.

My mum always told me there was Romani down her side of the family.  I believed her as she could read palms and tea leaves accurately herself, and had no reason to lie.  There are traits in family that are possibly connected apparently too.  But I've hit a blank.

Some very kind people have been helping me, but I am currently stuck here
I have ordered Ancestry DNA so hopefully in a few weeks can get further.

I'm also stuck on mum's father's side, totally stuck.  (Frederick John Flaaman (or Flaxman on his birth certificate) Seago, 1874-1921.  His Parents are possibly listed as John Seago/Sago (very possible)/Seage I can't get any more hints than that, and Emma or Emily for his mother. 

Any help or pointers to Romani heritage would be amazing, I have been talking to someone extremely knowledgeable and in this area but other's of you may have different info of course :) x

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Travelling People / Re: Earthenware dealer Bridget MORAN
« on: Tuesday 22 September 20 01:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi, My Great Gran on my Dad's Mum's side was Annie Moran (Polly).  Or Annie Burns Moran.  Born Southport 16 Jan 1881.

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Travelling People / Looking for HOLMES information, and possibly SEAGO
« on: Thursday 17 September 20 22:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I am very grateful to have found this site, and read some of the posts on the HOLMES family. 
My Mum always told me that there was Romany down her dad's side of the family.  I have been looking for a long time as I feel I really need to know where I come from, and I have a huge interest in the Old Ways as it is.  My mum could read palms and tea leaves, although she only showed me once and it was hidden again (she was very accurate).  So I am looking for information going back from Arthur Harold HOLMES of Beccles, 19 May, 1905, (wife Muriel SEAGO 21 Jan 1908).  Children : Shirley (my mum), Nola E, & Derek, possibly one other.
His Father is Thomas William HOLMES, also Beccles, Print Compositor.  Wife Edith Emma HARVEY.

I am also interested in Muriel's side, as her father was Frederick John Flaaman SEAGO, an unusual name..  from Norfolk.  That is a brick wall after him.  His birth certificate also said flaxman apparantly.  He was a 'marine engine driver', and was employed on several small Minelayer ships, of which I know there were 5 at least.  His mother was Emily/Emma Seago, no named father but on his ship records says John.  Frederick married Jane YOUNGS, father Robert YOUNGS.

My dad's side are all Irish, Moran's and Burns/Byrnes... :)

If anyone can tell me where to look or knows anything I would love to hear.  Maybe the information will help someone else.


 

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