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Hello Myself1,

As with the Moore's of Mechanic's Settlement, NB there were related Moore's in Cumberland County, NS. Along with them there were Kings, Gibson's, Black's and others. As the Moore's live in both the Sussex, NB area and Amherst Shore, NS area's and arrived on the same Brig in 1818, I am sure that there are more connections that can be made between these people. Have you further insight into the beginnings of these families? Perhaps letters between them, NB to NS. Which line are you most close to....or have the most definite information? I could start with some research on that. Email works better for me, you? We can always repost here if and when we make some progress.

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Lancashire / Re: Moore Family from Manchester 1820's
« on: Friday 25 September 20 20:03 BST (UK)  »
Probably not as my Moore folks lived there from 1818 to 1850 and the children from this relationship are Augusta, Alexander, Rachael, William, James, Charles, Andrew, Samuel Andrew and Mary Elizabeth Moore.  Parents William Moore, born 1801 in Down, Ireland. Elizabeth Lowery, born 1805, Down but 1841 Census says England. William died in April 29 1849 in Chorlton, Manchester and Elizabeth went on to Nashville, Tenn. along with all the children and their kids. Augusta b about 1824, Alexander b 1826 and then Rachael Moore b 1828 in Coventry, Warwickshire, Eng. Soooo.... it seems that their is a good chance they were all born here?? and perhaps even William Jr. 1829.  I have Rachael married to John Ward on June 3 1853, Manchester at St. Mary's Church. I have Alexander married to Esther West in Ardwick, at ST. Thomas' Church in July 16 1848. I am tossing this out there to see if anyone has knowledge of these folks/Moore's. This entire family went on to Nashville where my 5G grandfather was said to have sent a barrel of salt cod to them every Christmas, 1850 - Civil War times from Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada. Any information greatly welcomed. Cheers,  from Canada

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What's up. Are you interested in or have looked into what I have to share with others who arrived in 1818?

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I have a ship that brought my Moore's to St. Andrews, NB. 1818 It was listed in the Lloyds of London Insurance records book. Jessie, Capt. Lyons, ship brought passengers to settle in Canada and then went to Savannah, Georgia to return with cotton. I have included an attachment that was written by Rev. McCullough of 1st Protestant Church in Newtownards for John Moore, born 1786. Hollywood is mentioned but not sure. His first two boys were born Antrim. (wife was Montgomery) She died and he then married Sophia Angus. I think we have many things to share. I have 2 Gibson/Moore marriages, Gibson/Black, Gibson/Wilmot, Gibson/Angus and Gibson/Simpson. Also King, Finley, Mitchell, Gordon, Lowery, Beatty etc
Sorry but all my attachments are .doc, i will copy and paste or can send them to you or both??? Perhaps I can rename them as other??? Please advise.  cheers, Cal. Moore

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Thank you for sharing your knowledge of those long ago times. Perhaps our story has changed over time? Perhaps parts are correct and others not.

FAMILY BEGINNINGS

“ Twas seventeen hundred and seventy, Maybe!
In Northern Ireland, Lord Troupe lived with his Lady.
A daughter they had, Sarah by name.
She would make a good match, but Sarah won’t play the game.
While her Ladyship planned a Duke to be won
Sarah was off to Gretna Green with the Gardeners son.
They leapt over the anvil; Scotland said they were wed
But back home in England, they might as well have been dead!
John Angus, this Treachery will bring you no gain!
Sarah Troupe, this mischief will bring you much pain.
The years roll along and on Ireland's shore
Their dear Sophia marries John Moore.
An Irishman sure, with two wee red headed sons.
But what about Sarah and her other young ones?
Nathaniel’s in trouble for poaching off the grandpa’s Estate
So he’s off on the next ship and not as first mate!
But dressed as a woman or so the story goes
He left Mother and Country and all of his woes!
In Nova Scotia he settled his own land.
Soon back home in Ireland, more journeys were planned.
With their Treasures all packed up, boxed up and baled,
On Captain Lyon’s ship “Jesse” the Angus and Moore crew sailed.
They sailed and they sailed ‘til off Newfoundland’s Shore
Sophia gave birth to the first little “Black” Moore!
They landed at last at St. John, New Brunswick.
Those poor and hardy ancestors of you and of me!
They were both given land grants on Goose Rivers Shore
Where they settled side by side, John Angus and John Moore.
John Angus, then Nathaniel, William, Allison, Ernest and Thee,
John Moore, then Samuel, Thomas, Whylie and Me.

Hope you enjoy the poem. Written by an Angus girl and friend. c1960

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Peter Garden Died 1775 Lived to 132
« on: Thursday 16 July 20 17:39 BST (UK)  »
My family lore has the Troup girl marrying the gardener's son who had the surname of Angus. They went to Ireland and then to Canada. How do you like those apples? ha ha
To Canada in 1818. From County Down, Ireland. Newtownards is where my John Moore married Sophia Angus, daughter of that relationship. There were also Gordon's (Garden's?) are they one and the same who also came with this group. Cheers, Cal. Moore

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Troup House and the Troup estate were owned by the Garden family and the nearby Northfield estate by the Keiths. The parish kirkyard, St John's, contains no gravestones to anyone called Stevenson or Stephenson.
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Thank you for your response. I believe I have heard of the relationship between Troup and Gordon before. These times would have been 1740 to 1780 if in fact Sarah Troup ran off with the gardener's son, John Nathaniel Angus. John Angus had a son, Nathaniel Angus who married "Agnes" Nancy Hamilton Gordon in County Down, Ireland, about 1811. Many from this line have heard of the story but further proof remains to be found. Many thanks!

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Richard Stevenson born about 1788, from Ireland and married to Mary Long, b. 1804, Ireland. Settled in Kings County, New Brunswick, Canada. Two children born in N.B. Ann Stevenson b. 1825 married Alexander Moore, b. 1812, Armagh, County Antrim, Ireland. Alexander to Canada in 1818. Ann's brother born c1826 Canada, Andrew Campbell Stevenson. Thank you for your reply. Genealogy is great!

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Although I do have a Stevenson in my lineage, I also would like to know if you or someone you could recommend would have information on Troup Head and which church in this area to look for Protestant records. My Stevenson fellow came to Canada about 1818 from Ireland, married to Mary Long. St. John, New Brunswick, Canada. Daughter Ann married Alexander Moore who also arrived in 1818 from Newtownards, Down, Ireland. Lloyds insurers records, ship Jessie from Belfast to St. Andrews, NB. Canada, 1818.   cheers, Cal Moore, Sarnia, Ontario
As for mining enterprises, Lord Troup had a son who went to Africa, diamond mining. Our family lore is that a Troup gal eloped with a fellow by the last name Angus to Down, Ireland. Perhaps married at Gretna Green then to Ireland. cheers.

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