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I thnk someone has been conning you.  They used an instrument which looked like a wooden ruler with a lead weight on one end.  They read the strength of the beer (actually its specific gravity) from how deep it sank.
I wonder if they called it a con rod !!! ???

Thanks David. Can you provide me with your point of reference on this for my notes? It's certainly not unfeasible as Archimedes had been around well before then, and it's not too far off the mark with his displacement theory with buoyancy being dependent on a object's volume and density of surrounding fluid. Apart from the breeches, I found no other means by which they tested the ale in the 15 - 16th century.

Occupation Interests / Manufacturers of Incandescent Fittings c1900
« on: Friday 10 November 06 20:56 GMT (UK)  »
I am curious as to which companies where involved in the manufacturing of incandescent fittings c1900.
At a quick glance, I can only find references to Edison and Swan United Electric Company which was formed in 1883, and PIFCO (Provincial Incandescent Fittings Co) in 1900.

In the 1901 census, a relative is noted as being a 'Maker of Incandescent Fittings'. They are residing in Bramley, West Leeds.

Anyone know of any links or resources to industry in Leeds in the late 1890's- 1900's?


What an interesting topic! Quite enjoying the read here  :)

My husband is an ancestor of the HERRIDGE/ HEADACHE family from Bucklebury (Believe me .. that in itself explains a lot !!!).
One of the occupations they were involved in was that of an 'ale-conner'.
Apparently, they use to test the beer and collect taxes based on the ale's strength. To accomplish this they poured some ale onto a wooden bench and then sat in it, wearing moleskin breeches.

 The stickier the brew from the fermeted sugars, the harder it would have been to remove your breeches from the bench and hence the higher the alcohol content (and your taxes!)

I am trying to locate Michael LONGTHORN/E in the 1841 census.
Michael was born in August 1828 in Greenhow-Hill

(Apologises in advance if I've posted in the wrong spot as I believe part of Greenhow-Hill was WRY and the other NRY ??)

Michael's parents are believed to be Joseph LONGTHORN and Anne RICHMOND, but I have no details on them.
Michael had the following siblings:

Mary b. 1827, Greenhow-Hill
Hannah b. 1830, Greenhow-Hill, and
Joseph b. 1833, Pateley Bridge.

I believe I have located Hannah and Joseph in 1841 at the Bishopside Union Workhouse in Pateley Bridge ... but have not confirmed, and was hoping to piece the puzzle together with locating other members of the family if possible.

By 1851, Michael was residing in Durham, but checks here have turned up trumps.
Would welcome some thoughts on this one.

With thanks,

Family History Beginners Board / Strange expression ... c1828
« on: Sunday 15 October 06 04:16 BST (UK)  »
I was wondering whether someone could shed some light on this odd expression.

On researching an ancestor of my husbands, the literature says " In April 1828, she was 'out to service', and from 1854 - 71 was a school mistress ..."

What does 'out to service' mean? This ancestor would have been 14 yo at that time.

Just curious!

Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GILL, Pateley Bridge, bpt 1768
« on: Thursday 28 September 06 20:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi Daniel,
I must admit I got half way through a  'Wouldn't you know it' ... until I realised it actually wasn't the same Robert GILL!
One of Thomas' son's was a Robert born 1811 in Pateley Bridge.
I haven't used the email address from this site yet ... and truthfully haven't looked yet. You could try them, or the Wharfedale FHS

Another source with GILL references is This specifically for families from the Greenhow Hill/ Pateley Bridge area.

Apart from that it's taken 10 years of scouring! I guess the sites I keep going back to are, Rootsweb, Rootschat (of course!) and the IGI. I have only just joined Genes Reunited (as a means to share the family tree with my UK family) ... Probably haven't used it to it's full advantage though. There are a number of GILL researchers there, and we appear to all share the common ancestor of Thomas GILL and Sarah NEWBOLD.
I'd just like to verify Thomas' parentage, but coming up trumps!

Keep in touch won't you? We might end up on the same path - Who knows  :-\

Cheers for now,

Dublin / Re: St. Kevins', Harrington Street (FITZGERALD)
« on: Wednesday 27 September 06 21:17 BST (UK)  »
Hello Helkar,
I'll never close off any possibilities! However, at this stage I don't have a reference to a Thomas C. FitzGerald.
Unfortunately, I no nothing about James FITZGERALD's family (ie. parents/ siblings), and I've put a lot of my irish ancestry on hold, as my lack of knowledge on irish genealogy daunts me a tad!
I'll keep an eye out for you as I take the plunge though!
Kind regards,

Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GILL, Pateley Bridge, bpt 1768
« on: Monday 25 September 06 04:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi Margaret,
I'm not surprised to hear that the Wharfegen people are very helpful. You can tell there is a lot of pride gone into that website, I'm loving it! So often you see great websites .. but very rarely one that has direct input into your own family tree (Can you tell I'm chuffed?!  ;D )
We're new to rural Victoria, so not overly familar with Melbourne - nor Holland's Hairdressing (Couldn't find it in the yellow pages). There is a suburb called Holland Park - coincidently!


Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GILL, Pateley Bridge, bpt 1768
« on: Wednesday 20 September 06 22:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the 'tip-off's'! I haven't looked at the Hampsthwaite site yet .... BUT the Wharfegen site is simply awesome!!  :D
I didn't find what I was looking for, but came up with some unexpected sources for other families in my mother's maternal line.

Thank you very much!
Kind regards, Sue.

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