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Dorset / Re: Sir Charles Henry Cartwright Mayor of Bournemouth 1919-1922, 1928
« on: Sunday 23 September 12 20:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks Nanny John,
I'll try there.
I'll try there.
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Dorset / Re: Sir Charles Henry Cartwright Mayor of Bournemouth 1919-1922, 1928
« on: Sunday 23 September 12 19:58 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Richard,
yes, I have all of this, so I'm 99% sure they are the same person. Thanks for the mention of the Criterion Hotel: not knowing the area, I had no idea of the type of establishment that might be.
I'm really just dotting i's and crossing t's, as well as trying to get some biographical data. I was hoping to find somewhere, say, a reference to him and his wife together: you know the kind of thing, "Alderman Charles Cartwright attended with his wife Lucy".... but no luck so far :-)
The probate of his wife Lucy in 1933 seems to support his enhanced status, as he is described therein as "Charles Henry Cartwright, gentleman", as well as the location in Anthony Road.
yes, I have all of this, so I'm 99% sure they are the same person. Thanks for the mention of the Criterion Hotel: not knowing the area, I had no idea of the type of establishment that might be.
I'm really just dotting i's and crossing t's, as well as trying to get some biographical data. I was hoping to find somewhere, say, a reference to him and his wife together: you know the kind of thing, "Alderman Charles Cartwright attended with his wife Lucy".... but no luck so far :-)
The probate of his wife Lucy in 1933 seems to support his enhanced status, as he is described therein as "Charles Henry Cartwright, gentleman", as well as the location in Anthony Road.
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Dorset / Sir Charles Henry Cartwright Mayor of Bournemouth 1919-1922, 1928
« on: Sunday 23 September 12 16:15 BST (UK) »
I am trying to discover the background of Sir Charles.
He was born in 1862, and died in 1859. As far as I can tell, the only Charles Henry Cartwright with a birth registered in 1863 was in the Apr-Jun quarter, registered in Birmingham. He married a Lucy Hendren, and sure enough they found their way to Bournemouth - in the 1911 census he is described as a wine merchant: in previous censuses he was a publican. They are in St Anthonys Road with their daughter Winifred born in 1891.
I am trying to find some reference to the family of Sir Charles, which would show these two are the same person.
Unfortunately, my location in a distant part of the world limits my access to actual resources, and I have failed to find anything on the internet that ties these two together conclusively. If anyone out there has specific local knowledge I would be very happy to hear :-)
He was born in 1862, and died in 1859. As far as I can tell, the only Charles Henry Cartwright with a birth registered in 1863 was in the Apr-Jun quarter, registered in Birmingham. He married a Lucy Hendren, and sure enough they found their way to Bournemouth - in the 1911 census he is described as a wine merchant: in previous censuses he was a publican. They are in St Anthonys Road with their daughter Winifred born in 1891.
I am trying to find some reference to the family of Sir Charles, which would show these two are the same person.
Unfortunately, my location in a distant part of the world limits my access to actual resources, and I have failed to find anything on the internet that ties these two together conclusively. If anyone out there has specific local knowledge I would be very happy to hear :-)
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Warwickshire / Re: Charles(?) HENDREN married Birmingham 1818
« on: Wednesday 19 September 12 02:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks Warncoort...
Agreed, ordering would be a solution, but unfortunately I live in Russia and the chance of anything arriving safely is minimal!
But thank you for the link, I will look there....
Agreed, ordering would be a solution, but unfortunately I live in Russia and the chance of anything arriving safely is minimal!
But thank you for the link, I will look there....
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Warwickshire / Charles(?) HENDREN married Birmingham 1818
« on: Tuesday 18 September 12 21:27 BST (UK) »
The IGI gives the following entry:
Charles HENDREN married Maria MAYFIELD, St Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick. (Batch M04179-1).
There appears to be no other record of any kind (not that I've found!) relating to a 'Charles Hendren'.
It seems more likely that his name was George Hendren, based on the baptism records of what appear to be his two children (he - whether Charles or George - died before the first census, so I have no record of him with them).
If anyone has access to the records of St Phillips, could they check the entry, as I suspect the IGI may be in error.
Maria Mayfield is alternatively called Marianna or Maria Anna. She would have been a minor, as appears to have been born on 10 Aug 1801.
With thanks for any assistance
Charles HENDREN married Maria MAYFIELD, St Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick. (Batch M04179-1).
There appears to be no other record of any kind (not that I've found!) relating to a 'Charles Hendren'.
It seems more likely that his name was George Hendren, based on the baptism records of what appear to be his two children (he - whether Charles or George - died before the first census, so I have no record of him with them).
If anyone has access to the records of St Phillips, could they check the entry, as I suspect the IGI may be in error.
Maria Mayfield is alternatively called Marianna or Maria Anna. She would have been a minor, as appears to have been born on 10 Aug 1801.
With thanks for any assistance
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Oxfordshire / Re: William DENTON - Wootton b 1784?
« on: Friday 20 April 12 12:38 BST (UK) »
Many thanks everybody!
In a way I'd love it to be Berkshire (there is a later connection) but given that Wootton Woodstock did not get into Oxfordshire till 1974 I don't think it is probable - 1851 census definitely says Oxon.
I guess I'll just keep searching for that needle in the haystack!
Paul
In a way I'd love it to be Berkshire (there is a later connection) but given that Wootton Woodstock did not get into Oxfordshire till 1974 I don't think it is probable - 1851 census definitely says Oxon.
I guess I'll just keep searching for that needle in the haystack!
Paul
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Oxfordshire / Re: William DENTON - Wootton b 1784?
« on: Tuesday 17 April 12 12:30 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for looking.
It is a puzzle. Unfortunately there is nothing much else to go on. 1841 census just says 'Not Middlesex'. 1851 says 'Oxon, Wooton' - spelt wrong, but that must be Wootton. Dead before 1861 census.
Marriage entry does not help - no relatives given, so no idea of father's name.
Everyone else around his entry in 1851 census is born in Middlesex, so I have no reason to think the entry is erroneous - cannot be a swap from another entry, or something like that.
About the only thing I can think of is that he moved from Wootton just after birth, and was baptised somewhere else. That will probably lead nowhere - I can't see any obvious candidates anywhere. And I've got no other relatives (siblings, parents) to try to link into.
Looks like a dead end, unfortunately!
It is a puzzle. Unfortunately there is nothing much else to go on. 1841 census just says 'Not Middlesex'. 1851 says 'Oxon, Wooton' - spelt wrong, but that must be Wootton. Dead before 1861 census.
Marriage entry does not help - no relatives given, so no idea of father's name.
Everyone else around his entry in 1851 census is born in Middlesex, so I have no reason to think the entry is erroneous - cannot be a swap from another entry, or something like that.
About the only thing I can think of is that he moved from Wootton just after birth, and was baptised somewhere else. That will probably lead nowhere - I can't see any obvious candidates anywhere. And I've got no other relatives (siblings, parents) to try to link into.
Looks like a dead end, unfortunately!
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Oxfordshire / William DENTON - Wootton b 1784?
« on: Monday 16 April 12 15:22 BST (UK) »
My 4xGreat grandfather is William DENTON, born about 1784, died 1860. I first find him in London where, on 20 May 1806 in St Pancras, he marries Elizabeth Bullen Horlington. He seems to have had 3 children all born in London (there may be more) - Sarah Diana (b 1809), William (b 1811) and John Edward (b 1813).
It is the 1851 census that gives place of birth as 'Wootton, Oxon'. I have been unable to find any references to him prior to his marriage in 1806, nor any likely birth records for him.
Does anyone have a missing William in their tree from the Wootton area and are wondering where he disappeared to?
Happy hunting!
Paul
It is the 1851 census that gives place of birth as 'Wootton, Oxon'. I have been unable to find any references to him prior to his marriage in 1806, nor any likely birth records for him.
Does anyone have a missing William in their tree from the Wootton area and are wondering where he disappeared to?
Happy hunting!
Paul
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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Felix HENDREN/Anne HAWKESFORD St Martins Birmingham
« on: Friday 26 August 11 23:47 BST (UK) »
Jim,
many thanks for that. I was hoping to get some clue to Felix's side of the family, either his father, or a sibling of his as a witness, to give me a clue to his line, but unfortunately all the witnesses are from Ann's side of the family.
However, all is not lost, you have given me a new avenue to explore, as the marriage was by licence, so if I can track down the licence details that may yield something
And yes please, Lucy's marriage details would be interesting - I'm assuming it was to John Bailey? Although I have a date for that of 26 June 1823....
Again, thanks for your help!
Paul
many thanks for that. I was hoping to get some clue to Felix's side of the family, either his father, or a sibling of his as a witness, to give me a clue to his line, but unfortunately all the witnesses are from Ann's side of the family.
However, all is not lost, you have given me a new avenue to explore, as the marriage was by licence, so if I can track down the licence details that may yield something
And yes please, Lucy's marriage details would be interesting - I'm assuming it was to John Bailey? Although I have a date for that of 26 June 1823....
Again, thanks for your help!
Paul