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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Advice on surname variations please.
« on: Wednesday 16 June 21 22:16 BST (UK)  »
The modern computer has a horribly strict and proscriptive naming protocol.

I when I order my tree  surname data in alphabetical order in search of erroneous duplicated people, I find the importance of the use or avoidance of the HYPHEN in double or triple barrelled surnames.

So, to hyphenate or not to hyphenate?

Fitz-Herbert, FitzHerbert, Fitz herbert , Fitz Herbert or Fitzherbert?

Also the FULL STOP and Spacing as in the common abbreviation of the surname SAINT. St.Leger, St. Leger, St Leger or Saint Leger.

I am now tending to avoid all hyphens in the hope for some personal consistency, at least in the strict alphabetical ordering!

Devon / Re: New Inn BEAFORD and the Parish Clerks of Beaford
« on: Saturday 12 June 21 15:02 BST (UK)  »
Still looking for the elusive New Inn  ???

Is this one possible, just 3 miles from Beaford centre?

Booth's Life and Labour Survey

In Our Time

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss Charles Booth's survey, The Life and Labour of the People in London, published in 17 volumes from 1889 to 1903. Booth (1840-1916), a Liverpudlian shipping line owner, surveyed every household in London to see if it was true, as claimed, that as many as a quarter lived in poverty. He found that it was closer to a third, and that many of these were either children with no means of support or older people no longer well enough to work. He went on to campaign for an old age pension, and broadened the impact of his findings by publishing enhanced Ordnance Survey maps with the streets coloured according to the wealth of those who lived there.

The image above is of an organ grinder on a London street, circa 1893, with children dancing to the Pas de Quatre


Emma Griffin
Professor of Modern British History at the University of East Anglia

Sarah Wise
Adjunct Professor at the University of California


Lawrence Goldman
Emeritus Fellow in History at St Peterís College, University of Oxford

Producer: Simon Tillotson

The Common Room / Re: Registering an illegitimate birth
« on: Wednesday 09 June 21 16:54 BST (UK)  »
My cousin has just discovered via DNA that she had a half brother born 1936 died 2017.  She was b 1948

His mother was married & although his birth was registered under her married name it is said that my uncles name is shown as his father on the birth cert.

If that is true - would I be right in saying that my uncle would have had to be present at the birth registration & therefore had full knowledge of the child's birth?

A copy of the birth cert is being forwarded to my cousin.  The child was raised by the woman's husband who knew he was not the child's father

If the baby was not the husbands then registration would come under the following procedure though the mother would give her married name as her name rather than her maiden name.

Rules for unmarried parents to register a birth after 1875.

The details of both parents can be included on the birth certificate if one of the following happens:
They sign the birth register together.
One parent completes a statutory declaration of parentage form and the other takes the signed form to register the birth.
One parent goes to register the birth with a document from the court (for example, a court order) giving the father parental responsibility.

The above indicates if no father's name is shown and only the mother signed the birth was illegitimate, or if the father's name is not the mother's husband the birth is illegitimate.

"Rules for unmarried parents to register a birth after 1875."

Do you have Chapter and Verse for these rules please?

I wonder if an unmarried couple, who stated that they were married or were presumed to be married, would be required to show any proof of marriage?

If these 'Rules' were in fact followed, I shall have to review and re-interpret the registrations for all my great uncles and aunt only one of which was registered by the supposed BENNETT father, several of whom were registered after your 1875 date.

I do know that my great grandmother had a 1866 first born son Edgar CROCKFORD in Liverpool, whose father  Frederick is named along with his occupation as Ship Steward. 
If this couple were ever married, they MIGHT have married in USA or on board ship on the return journey to Liverpool.  By 1871 and 1881  Edgar assumed the surname BENNETT along with his half-siblings,


The Common Room / What's in a Name? Exploration of fixed cultural naming traditions
« on: Wednesday 09 June 21 10:09 BST (UK)  »

What's In a Name?

Four Thought

Helena Goodwyn interrogates the near universal practice of giving children their fatherís - not their motherís - surname

Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Coat of Arms Inheritance and grants
« on: Friday 04 June 21 20:31 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for recommending these interesting articles which will improve my understanding of this subject.

Looks like he might have gone to South Africa, also a possible death on familysearch
thank so much for that marriage link in South Africa.
I now have Jean's previous marriage and her parents but still hope for Basil's death date.

Many thanks for showing that Basil survived the POW experience.  I wonder if I can find his death post-War.

On this list, I don't see any female names for his mother Blanche or for his father General Roger WILSON.

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