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     Most sincere condolences to you and your family, Mike.

The Common Room / Re: HMS Collingwood Bombing Memorial Service
« on: Thursday 24 January 13 21:59 GMT (UK)  »

   I posted it, NDRFT, as a cut-and-paste quote from another forum because I thought there might be some Rootschatters for whom it was relevant. There was no address, but I should think that Googling 'HMS Collingwood Association' would find it.


  I'm afraid I shall be a bit of a pedant here and say that it's actually Court Martial, and the plural is Courts Martial (ie Military Courts).
  It does rather sound as if the officer 'played the system', but it always makes my heart bleed to think what happened to 'other ranks' under the same circumstances.
      Go and visit the Shot at Dawn memorial at the National Memorial Arboretum near Lichfield.
  Take a big hanky, there is a handy seat where you can have a good cry. I'm not exaggerating, my eyes are filling with tears just picturing it!

The Common Room / HMS Collingwood Bombing Memorial Service
« on: Tuesday 22 January 13 18:04 GMT (UK)  »
H.M.S.Collingwood bombing 1943

 Memorial Remembrance Service H.M.S.Collingwood bombing 1943

I am looking for relatives of the 33 men who were killed on June 18th 1943 when a bomb dropped on H.M.S.Collingwood. Most were 17 and 18 year olds and 'volunteers'. On their service record the explanation "To serve for the duration of the present conflict" would have meant that at the end of the war they would have been released. They were only a couple of weeks into their training. 33 were killed and 38 injured. One of those injured was later killed in another instance on 22 December 1943, still only 17.
In conjunction with the Executive Officer and the Public Relations Officer of H.M.S.Collingwood, I have arranged a Memorial Service in the H.M.S.Collingwood Chapel and a visit to where the bomb dropped, where there will be another short service. Wreaths and Poppies will then be laid at a tree planted to commemorate the 50th anniversary.
If you know about this and know a relative or someone who served there, please let me know. The 70th Anniversary on June 18th this year is rapidly approaching. Brothers and sisters will be in their 80's and 90's, (I have two already). Sons and Daughters, Nephews and Nieces all wanted.
Mike Crowe
 H.M.S.Collingwood Association

The Lighter Side / Re: rag rugs
« on: Tuesday 15 January 13 21:12 GMT (UK)  »
  Make one of those small ones first, the ones women stood on at the sink. Black border and mixed colours for the rest. They have them at Beamish. I turned to my granddaughter and told her my grandma had one just like it in front of the sink (in Northants)
     I then told her about the 'cottage with garden' fireside rug that my mother made, without any pattern, she just made up the design. When I had finished, the lady behind me said,'Thank you, I did enjoy that, it was so interesting'  Once a teacher, always a teacher, it seems!   :-[

   The trouble was, once they got grubby they could not be cleaned, they were too thick and heavy, at least the larger ones were, so they had to be thrown away.

The Lighter Side / Re: Well I have tried....
« on: Tuesday 15 January 13 20:56 GMT (UK)  »
Another thing I learnt this morning from another forum, if you are using laptop you can alter text size by placing fingers in opposite diagonal corners of touch pad and drag toward/out from the centre.

  You have to enable that by going to 'Control Panel' then 'Devices and Printers' and click on 'Mouse' which will give you the box all about your touchpad and it's a tab headed something like 'Pointer Options'.

The Lighter Side / Re: sadness
« on: Tuesday 15 January 13 20:47 GMT (UK)  »

  I used to listen, fascinated, as my grandma told me stories of her chilhood, and I used to say 'When I grow up, Nanna, I shall write them all down". Alas, she died when I was fourteen.
     How I wish now that I had written them when I was younger! Still, she did awaken my interest in history, especially Family History.

The Common Room / Re: UK Street Numbering
« on: Saturday 05 January 13 16:11 GMT (UK)  »

  What a lovely word! I must try to remember it.

   I don't think Google intend 'Street View' to show the correct numbers.

   They took a series of photos every few yards, so the number it displays is where that photo was taken.
   I live in a cul-de-sac. The 3 bungalows where I live are up a private drive behind a brick wall. Only our garage door is visible on Google. In the other part, one house has no number at all, one is no.7, next door is no.10, then 12 and the two other houses are 40a and 42a relating to numbers in the street at the bottom of our drive! It drives canvassers mad!

England / Re: Apprentice shoe/bootmakers
« on: Friday 28 December 12 18:54 GMT (UK)  »

  Well I see he is described in the later records as 'Journeyman bootmaker' and  'Master Bootmaker'.  Either of these would indicate that he had completed an apprenticeship. 'Journeyman' means that he had finished his apprenticeship but could not afford to set up in business on his own so worked for an employer. I apologise if you already know this, but 'journeyman' has no connection with travelling; it's from the French 'journee' (day) because they were originally paid by the day.  If he was a Master Bootmaker he would have had his own business. Now was he telling the truth or inflating his occupation to look good? Assuming he was truthful it looks as if he went into business on his own account, but possibly could not make it pay as he is back to Journeyman later.
Hope this helps (I live in Northamptonshire)

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