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The 50% of DNA you inherit from each parent in each subsequent generation is random, you just may not have inherited autosomal DNA from that line.

I have lots of ancestors I haven't inherited DNA from, the other 50%.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry UK European West 59%
« on: Friday 06 April 18 07:38 BST (UK)  »
Try this guide:

http://genealogical-musings.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/finally-gedmatch-admixture-guide.html?m=1



1 Southwest_English @ 3.856362
2 Southeast_English @ 5.715516
3 Orcadian @ 6.585446
4 North_Dutch @ 7.187740
5 West_Scottish @ 7.225705
6 Irish @ 7.393940
7 Danish @ 7.565976
8 South_Dutch @ 8.208080
9 West_German @ 8.980570
10 North_German @ 9.075273
11 Norwegian @ 9.642979
12 West_Norwegian @ 10.345956
13 French @ 11.669604
14 Swedish @ 11.719646
15 North_Swedish @ 14.418611
16 East_German @ 15.591498
17 Spanish_Galicia @ 19.910423
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 19.934065
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 20.435026
20 Austrian @ 21.020836

Do you understand what that means and if you do could you give me an idiots guide. Thank you.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry UK European West 59%
« on: Thursday 05 April 18 09:16 BST (UK)  »
Why are you surprised by the high percentage?

England was settled by Angles, Saxons, Normans, Bretons, Dutch, Norwegians, Swedish and Danish in the last 1500 years. Mine is around 51% and I'm not surprised by that.

Some of the responses on here are a bit strange, most of the supposed inaccuracies can be explained readily once you understand how genetic clusters overlap.

On Gedmatch my top four are:

1   North_Dutch   4.29
2   Danish   5.52
3   West_German   5.84
4   Norwegian   5.8

Within the context of the history of England the above result is about right, especially in East Anglia, where I am from.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Different DNA results between sisters
« on: Wednesday 01 November 17 20:32 GMT (UK)  »

I think you need to take a deep breath and calm down.  :)

I doubt all those individuals have used the Admixture Tools available, or understood them correctly. Clusters overlap and it can be easy to receive the erroneous results.

For instance, I have 4% Ashkenazi Jewish in my FTDNA results, I don't have any Jewish ancestors, but with a little research I learned Ashkenazi Jews overlap with Italians and Greeks. This is because they all share East Med DNA.

Most likely that element of my DNA is from the Romans.

So, in summary, most results aren't totally wrong, it's the tools used and the 
interpretation of the data.

Well I assume you have not read my 200 plus posts that I referred to in my last post or else you would not have posted what you just did.

I am no expert on DNA testing, don't claim to be and never have, however I do recognise when someone is being disingenuous in my opinion. I have invited you to read more widely then you might understand where my criticism comes from, until then there is no point in discussing this with you as you appear to have a closed mind.

Oh and being patronising doesn't advance your argument so perhaps you would like to leave it out next time, should there be one.

I've not been patronising at all, I listened to your opinion and gave mine in return.

I suggest you do some reading on clusters and how they overlap, it will explain the majority erroneous results. Most ethnic groups overlap each other, some groups are more of a mix than others.

Thank you for your replies :)

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Different DNA results between sisters
« on: Wednesday 01 November 17 19:07 GMT (UK)  »

If you have used the analytical tools available, and understand the interpretation, the results you get are pretty accurate. I use the various Admixture Tools on Gedmatch.

Personally, I don't rely on the interpretation by FTDNA, Ancestry, or others.

You are of course entitled to your opinion.  :)

I have over 200 posts on the Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing board. Perhaps if you read them you would not be so quick to criticise me, and incidentally would not have made some of the assumptions you have about me. Still there you go each to their own.

I think you need to take a deep breath and calm down.  :)

I doubt all those individuals have used the Admixture Tools available, or understood them correctly. Clusters overlap and it can be easy to receive the erroneous results.

For instance, I have 4% Ashkenazi Jewish in my FTDNA results, I don't have any Jewish ancestors, but with a little research I learned Ashkenazi Jews overlap with Italians and Greeks. This is because they all share East Med DNA.

Most likely that element of my DNA is from the Romans.

So, in summary, most results aren't totally wrong, it's the tools used and the 
interpretation of the data.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Different DNA results between sisters
« on: Wednesday 01 November 17 12:04 GMT (UK)  »

Personally I found mine to be very accurate, .......

Of course some people will get results that they think are accurate, and in some cases they may well be. However, there are an awful lot of people who dispute the results they get and with good reasons. They detail their tails of woe on message boards all over the place. Of course if people get what they wanted to see they will think they are the best thing since sliced bread and that is their entitlement. Still the point is these tests are a pseudo science that trap the gullible and unaware.

Many reputable genetic scientists dispute the wilder claims of these ethnicity DNA tests why not have a good read around I am sure that will be more informative than anything I can say to you here.

Good luck.

If you have used the analytical tools available, and understand the interpretation, the results you get are pretty accurate. I use the various Admixture Tools on Gedmatch.

Personally, I don't rely on the interpretation by FTDNA, Ancestry, or others.

You are of course entitled to your opinion.  :)

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Gedmatch admixture question (be nice)
« on: Wednesday 01 November 17 09:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there.

Thank you, that makes a lot of sense. Quite relieved to be honest as I didn't fancy all my research being invalidated by a rogue recent Indian ancestor!

The Eurogenes EU Test is the most accurate for me.

What admixture tool are you using?

When I use the global one, I usually get about 3% Asian, quite normal for Europeans, most have 3-5%.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Different DNA results between sisters
« on: Wednesday 01 November 17 08:29 GMT (UK)  »
In truth these autosomnal DNA tests do NOT tell you your ethnic ancestry. What they do is tell you what you have in common with their sample populations. As all the companies have different sample populations it would be possible for you to test with the three leading companies and get three very different results.

Personally I found mine to be very accurate, for instance, if I run my autosomal DNA through the admix calculators on Gedmatch, my closest populations are Swedish and North Dutch (Frisian).

Now given that I'm East Anglian with a whole bunch of Viking ancestry, I'd say that's pretty accurate.

Perhaps you should try some admixture tools on Gedmatch?, accurate for most people.

Of course they compare you with existing populations, how else would you do it?

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: British Isles ancestry - Scandinavian matches
« on: Saturday 19 August 17 11:34 BST (UK)  »
They've given some of your Scandinavian genes to me, for I now have 33% Scandinavian, whereas before I just had 5% Finland and Northern Siberia. I have 11% Iberia, and most interesting of all, 3% Sephardic Jewish. Not bad for a boy from an east-coast Scottish fishing village. I would like to see how they work out these results.

Harry

It does make you wonder, the Jewish percentages in a lot of British people's results got me a bit perplexed too but then I did some research and noticed that some Jewish groups overlap clusters with Italians and Greeks. I think this is down to an East Mediterranean element, so I'm my opinion they are misinterpreting South European as Jewish.

I'd say your other elements make sense, East Scotland was raided and settled by Vikings.

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