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United States of America / Re: Interpreting court notice
« on: Sunday 20 September 20 20:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi mrcakey, Sidney was sent back to England from New York City on the Cedric, arriving Liverpool, Nov. 18, 1929. His "proposed address" on the passenger list was Straits Lane, Read, Lancs. His occupation was printer.

In some ways, Sidney's situation may have been a blessing in disguise: On the newspaper page with the item about Sidney, I noticed stock market tables from the New York Stock Exchange. Some of the shares were trading at $200 per share (about $3000 per share in today's money). A week later the stock market crashed, and the Great Depression began.

Ancest*y has some prison records from New York State, but the Elmira Reformatory isn't among them, probably because of the age of those sent there. You are also correct about the New York State Archives: many records, but the many Elmira Reformatory records there are not searchable, probably because of age restrictions, too.

But never say never. You might try emailing the Reference Services people at the Archives: [email protected]  The Archives' website says that they are reopening. FYI: Nysed in the email adress refers to the New York State Education Department, of which the Archives is part.

You also might want to read the Archives' info on inmate records beforehand.
There are inmate age limitations on the release of information, but if you mention that Sidney Collinge was born 1909 (according to the Cedric's passenger list), that should not be problem.


United States of America / Re: Tragic death of Ada Assister in Pennsylvania 1920
« on: Wednesday 28 March 18 17:39 BST (UK)  »
Attached is the item about Ada Assiter on part of the front page from the Pittsburgh Press of March 23, 1920. Scroll to the left side of the of the page if this is too large for the screen.

I can't seem to find the death Ada's death certificate on this post. The newspaper item says that she died in Mercy Hospital, which is in the city of Pittsburgh. But I seem to recall that another hospital is listed on the death certificate--St. Margaret. 


United States of America / Re: Tragic death of Ada Assister in Pennsylvania 1920
« on: Saturday 24 March 18 20:20 GMT (UK)  »
I found a blurb about Ada Assiter's death at the bottom of the front page of the Pittsburgh Press of Mar. 24, 1920. The newspaper is accessible through the Google News Archive. It is no longer maintained by Google, but it is still searchable. Navigation on a particular page, however, can be a problem.

Right click on this link and open it in a new tab to see the newspaper:

The item about Ada Assiter is at the bottom left of the front page. The best way to navigate, if you can read the headline at the bottom of the page, is by clicking on it. Otherwise, just click on any headline on the front page and then use the arrow keys to go down and left.

Though not over far from the city of Pittsburgh, Leechburg in 1922 was small and rural. Details of local news would have been covered by newspapers of nearby towns. The only other relevant newspaper that I found in the Google News Archive was from Greensburg, a larger town about 20 miles to the southeast. A check of the Greensburg Tribune editions for a few days after March 22, 1922 turned up nothing.


Here's one additional link to more information about Fayette County, Pennsylvania and its coal industry:


United States of America / Re: What is my next move?
« on: Monday 25 September 17 21:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi Paul: You're welcome. And thanks for enlightening me. As Claude Rains said to Bogie in Casablanca: I am shocked! I had no idea that the faces were expressing shock! I just thought they were eyes blinking open and shut. No offense intended.


Hi River Tyne Lass (and Sandra and others)

The snippet of James Conroy's death certificate that Sandra posted has his place of burial as Slavish Cemetery (nowadays we would say Slavic). Slavish Cemetery is another name for the "old" cemetery of St. Emery's R.C. Church in Connellsville, Pennsylvania, which is several miles southeast of the Shamrock Mine and Coke Works, where James died.

It took some sleuthing, but I think James is buried that far away from where he lived because the Slavish Cemetery was the burial place of 239 miners who were killed in an explosion in December 1907 at another mine in the area, and there are other burials there of coal miners. I couldn't find the burial records for the cemetery online, and St. Emery's church has apparently closed, unfortunately.

Edited: There actually are burials on Findagrave for St. Emery's (Slavish) Cemetery. However, only 99 records have been posted. Here's a link to the Findagrave page for the cemetery:

There is a very thorough website about coal mining in southwestern Pennsylvania. Here's a link to the page with a map showing many coal mining towns in Fayette County, with Shamrock listed: Shamrock is just to the left of Uniontown.

Scroll down the list on the left to find Shamrock and click on it to see a few pictures.

That first page is just a few pictures of the coke ovens. Here's a website with some further info about Shamrock and many more pictures (mostly of the coke ovens, which are know as beehive ovens):

Shamrock the mining town is pretty much gone, but here is a link to a topographical map that shows Shamrock in relation to New Salem and Buffington, the nearest settlements:

And if you go to Bing Maps and search "Buffington, Pennsylvania", you will be able to zoom in, using the Birdseye view, to see what Buffington and New Salem look like today. As far as I can make Shamrock would have been to the southeast (the right) of New Salem and just to the left of the intersection of New Salem Road and Krulock Road. The Shamrock coke ovens might have been somewhere on the south (lower) side of New Salem Road, where the straight line in the foliage and the roundish black spot (an old coal pile, perhaps) are.

Hope this helps.


United States of America / Re: What is my next move?
« on: Friday 22 September 17 18:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi Paul: I'm assuming that you found your information in's "Ohio, Southern District Naturalization Index, 1852-1991."

The website of the Ohio Southern District U.S. District Court has a link to records sent to the Chicago branch of the National Archives:

But the direct link to Ohio Southern District records at the Chicago Branch is

Halfway down is information on how to e-mail the branch to get records for cases that have been closed for more than 20 years (your situation).

You might also try the website of Hamilton County, Ohio ( if the person(s) you are researching live(d) in or near Cincinnati. The link shows various types of records.

John  :o :o :o

United States of America / Re: Can anyone help me in Maryland?
« on: Thursday 11 May 17 19:05 BST (UK)  »
I would think the Last Will and Testament would include people that she was leaving her estate to and may include their addresses or the towns where they lived at the time.  The list of interested persons might mention family members as well.

Thanks Shelley  ;D

I've avoided naming names of living persons here, so you'll have to fill in the blanks!
I thought I would have a look at the Maryland probate record for Phyllis McGuire. In case you haven't seen it, the personal representative listed on the search results looks to be a close relative, living in 2007 in Gaithersburg. Since no attorney is listed on the probate record, that person most likely administered the estate. And, if you wrote to the Gaithersburg address that is on the probate record and received no reply, then it is is likely that the p. representative moved between 2007 and when you wrote the letter. A person with the same name is listed on in Montgomery Village, MD, which is a neighboring town.

I also noticed the mention of Matthew's family going in 1951 to Cedar Grove, New Jersey in the thread. That prompted me to search for him in the U.S. census records on There are 1920 and 1930 U.S. census listings for Matthew McGuire, 8 and 18 years old, living with his family at 437 Broadway, Elizabeth, New Jersey, which is 18 miles south of Cedar Grove. In the 1940 U.S. census, the family is still at the same address in Elizabeth, but Matthew McGuire is not with them. He is in the U.S. Army Air Corps at Mitchel Field in Hempstead, New York (on Long Island). Matthew seems to have enlisted in the U.S. Army as early as 1935, since he is listed on the 1940 census page as living at the same place in 1935. Here's a link to the 1940 census page: Matthew must have served in the Army and then re-enlisted in or transferred to the U.S. Navy.

There seem to be a boatload of McGuires currently living in Cedar Grove, New Jersey. Perhaps Matthew and family were going to visit relatives there. Perhaps relatives of his still live there.

Hope this helps.
John  :o :o :o

United States of America / Re: Mormon emigrants Halifax to Nebraska
« on: Monday 24 April 17 23:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi I see this is a pretty old post, but found it interesting. My Great grandma was Ruby Tempest she married Ellis Botham.  I still live in the area and visit the cemeteries. My mom also has some old Tempest photos, we have put some on find a grave, however we keep talking about needing to make more time to add some more. I am pretty sure she even has a photo of Clair Tempest. I also remember seeing one of the house in Fair field. Please let me know if I can help with anything, I will do my best  :D


Hi Shelley: Welcome to Rootschat. Yes, the post is several years old. I just happened to visit the website today and saw your reply to the thread on the U.S. page. I re-read a good bit of the thread before I realized that I had contributed to it. I remember it well now, since I have have relatives not far from Fairfield (and Spokane)--across the border in Idaho. I don't have anything new to add, however. But it's always interesting to have relatives of the subjects pop up. Perhaps this might rekindle Marmaduke123's interest, too. If you make two additional posts, you can send private messages to Rootschat members.

John  :o :o :o

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