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Sue,

thank you so much for this. It has helped to fill in the picture a bit for Thomas Hiram. The Dewar bit is useful too - it answers a question about his wife, whose name is "Devoir" on the marriage index, but has no other records under that name.

Approaching the problem from the other direction, all I have on my grandfather's birth certificate (Oct 1902) are that his parents are William Jones, lighterman/journeyman and Catherine Eliza Jones, late Slack, formerly Williams, laundress.

The address is in Queen's Head Alley but they are not at the address on the 1901 census and I haven't yet managed to find a marriage record for them either.

At least now I know that if William was related to Thomas Hiram snr and was a licensed lighterman he didn't do his apprenticeship with his father.  George James and Thomas Robert who were bound to Thomas Hiram may have been Williams' older brothers. Do you know if either of them took on any apprentices at all?

Many thanks,

Sue

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Hi Sue,

I'm going to join in the impudence and ask if you could, please, see if there is anything listed for my great grandfather, William (Thomas) Jones whose occupation is given on my grandfather's birth certificate (1902) as lighterman/journeyman, which I think means he was a licensed lighterman but couldn't afford his own barge.

I don't have any definite birth date / place although I'm currently playing a bit of a hunch and guessing he may be connected to one Thomas Hiram Jones, born around 1837 in the Aldgate area, whose occupation is given in various censuses as waterman and/or lighterman, so anything on him also would be of interest.

He had a son named William b 1868 in the Aldgate area. I can't prove the link but my grandfather was also Thomas Hiram Jones, and while Thomas and William are very common, Hiram is a bit more unusual. Thomas H snr had other sons (Thomas b 1860, George b1862, Chrles b 1870, Robert b1876, John b 1879) but I've found no evidence so far that any of them followed him as lightermen.

If you can throw any light on this I'd be very grateful - I've looked on the Parish Records website but I've been reluctant to purchase the CD in case it was an example of someone "talking up" their occupation on the birth certificate.

Thankyou

Sue

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Wiltshire / Re: Daniel Maggs of Fittleton/Haxon
« on: Thursday 11 January 07 13:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Brian,

did you ever resolve your questions about the Maggs family? I am descended through John Drewitt & Eliza Maggs so have looked at some information on this. Happy to share if it is of interest.

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