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Australia / Re: John Peter SMITH 1851
« on: Monday 15 December 08 11:01 GMT (UK)  »
Hello there, moscowman
                                       Was your Robert [Graham] SMITH b.1852 Melbourne OZ ?
 The John Peter SMITH son of John[Job] SMITH & Elizabeth Eagle was b. 1832 at
St Andrews Holborn Middx. England find family in 1841/51 Census 30 March 1851
St Pancras Middx.HO107 piece 1495 Folio 83 Page 65.
   If you read back from your correspondence of 13 December 2008 you will find more info. Do you know Trevor SMITH in NZ. or Anne Shipley in Canada also related?
  Lots more info. to unfold but not sure of J. P.SMITH of 1852
                                                eveder

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Australia / Re: John Peter SMITH 1851
« on: Saturday 08 December 07 15:21 GMT (UK)  »
Greetings cando, sparrett and tropicalj
                                                              that's fantastic the speed of reply was such that it's as though you were sitting waiting for the question. You weren't were you? Your help is even now on it's way to other family members [who didn't know about www.RootsChat.com] in Canada and New Zealand. It is going to take a little time to sort it all out but for now THANK YOU VERY MUCH ..........................eveder

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Australia / John Peter SMITH 1851
« on: Friday 07 December 07 19:51 GMT (UK)  »
Please can anyone help?
have just come across this info. John Peter SMITh was a bro. of my Gt Grandfather. They were sons of Job SMITH & Elizabeth  EAGLE.
On the 1851 [UK] census he is shown as :- J. Smith unmarried 19
i.e. Born 1831/2. at St Andrews Holborn Commercial Trav. Millinery
By the 1861 census he had disappeared.
But he turns up with a son John Edward SMITH born 1861 Melbourne Victoria and a wife Emma Beattie. John Peter died 19th June 11900 South Yarro.Victoria.
Is it possible to find out When & How he arrived in Australia? And for that matter anything else. Eveder

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Hello there, both,
                           to start the ball rolling I've posted a request on the Hertfordshire rootschat asking for parents of the 2 john Smiths listed on the census for 1851/61. and if poss. their birth/bapt. dates. It's worth a try although I'm not sure it is in the public domain...................... eveder   

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Hertfordshire Lookup Requests / Baptism - John SMITH bc 1795 Hemel Hempstead
« on: Friday 16 March 07 16:42 GMT (UK)  »
The UK census for John Smith born 1795 +/-  2 years Hemel Hempstead . It seems that tere is one in 1851 residing in St Pancras Middx. and another john smith in 1861 born 1794 Hemel Hempstead an Ag.Lab. who was lodging in Gt. Gaddesden.
 Please could someone kindly establish the parents of both and if possible birth/baptism dates?
Check thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,220378.0.html


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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Census 1841..........Census 1851
« on: Thursday 15 March 07 16:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi MJP........... your last post is both helpful and sensible I will start to put it into operation.
However did you notice the comment of heywood, re-1851 census for John Smith giving reference to birth in 1794 "our" John.
Another John Smith in 1861 census is an unmarried AG Lab born H/Hemp. but lodging Gt Gadd. so it is possble that there were
2 Johns. have I got the right John with the wrong parents?

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Census 1841..........Census 1851
« on: Thursday 15 March 07 15:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Heywood and MJP,
                                      Have I come to the right conclusion?
If I want to establish my SMITH ancestors I have to find the parents of John [Job] SMITH in Herts. And/or I need to find the parents of Frances Palmer SMITH from the St Andrews Holborn.
FPS was born on 14th January 1827.
Is it possible to obtain that info. from St a Andrews Holborn parish records?

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Census 1841..........Census 1851
« on: Thursday 15 March 07 13:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again
                 "our" john smith was born 24th October 1794. you've found a John born 1794 H/Hempstead living in Gt Gaddesden in 1861. Is that coincidence or is what I thought was so.......not so.
 Can I insert what I thought I had already posted but i can't find it so here goes with another idea.
John smith of Gt Gaddesden married Frances Palmer at Aldbury on 5th march 1785. There are children listed thus:-
Elizabeth Smith bapt 19 Feb. 1886 at Gt Gadd.
Rachel     Smith    "     18 Mar. 1787     "     "
Jane        Smith    "       9 Mar 1788
Is it unreasonable to think that John [Job] was born to this couple six years after Jane in 1794? Could H/Hemp on 1851 census relate to gt Gadd? Does this make any sense?....eveder

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Census 1841..........Census 1851
« on: Wednesday 14 March 07 21:47 GMT (UK)  »
Hello MJP & Heywood,
                                  surely your brains must be really aching, now. Here's a little more in answer to some of your thoughts.
John [Job] was born 24th Oct 1794 bapt. 30th Nov. 1794
His sister Elizabeth was born 5th Dec. 1792 bapt 6th Jan 1793
A bro. Edward born 16th Mar.1797 bapt 30th July 1797 all at H/ Hemp.  father JOhn Smith mother Mrs Elizabeth Smith. And i have John Smith marr. Elizabeth Howard 1st Dec 1791, Does any of this help. Tomorrow perhaps Thank you again you are being very kind and a great help ...................eveder   

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