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Ireland / Re: Irish to Scotland - Famine years
« on: Thursday 08 May 08 06:03 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the links and suggestions, Some I already had looked into but the Poor Relief Records at the  Mitchell Library sounds like a good start. And they have a great site with lots of available records in their collections. Hopefully they will be willing to help via email as I am in the USA.

Thomas and Nancy in Bothwell are my Tagues. I didn't get birth certs for the younger children but will try to get them now. Hopefully they show a town rather then just say Ireland.

Thanks again I appreciate your help.

Irish


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Ireland / Re: Irish to Scotland - Famine years
« on: Monday 05 May 08 03:03 BST (UK)  »
Bob,
Thanks for the info and your suggestion and also the welcome although I have been around now for a year.  ;)


aghadowey,
Thanks for your advice, Unfortunatley any records I have found only say Ireland, none list the county or town. The birth certificate does not give place of marriage for the parents, that would be too easy. And why should genealogy be easy? haha
And thank you for the alternate spellings, I am aware of those and search for all variants.

Thanks to both of you for your time.

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Ireland / Re: IRISH to SCOTLAND - FAMINE YEARS
« on: Sunday 04 May 08 05:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lissa,

Thanks for the reply, That's what I was afraid of since I wasn't finding any such lists. Oh well  :(

The names I am looking for that went from Ireland to Scotland are mainly Tague, Fanning, Gilmartin and Griffin.

I was trying this angle to see if I could find where in Ireland they were from. Hoping a passenger list or a Scotland record of arrival would show where in Ireland they were from.

My main concern is Tague, I know they were from either Leitrim or Roscommon.

I have a Thomas Tague married to Bridget Fanning, both born c.1799 in Ireland (don't know if they immigrated to Scotland)

Their child Thomas Tague b: c.1825 Ireland, d:1875 Scotland married Anne (Nancy) Savage (don't know if they were married in Ireland or Scotland) But both immigrated to Scotland

Their first child was born in Scotland in 1855.

So that tells me Thomas and Anne Tague were in Scotland bef. 1855. Once in Scotland I have records for this Tague family as well as the others listed above.
(census, death certs. cemetery records and even photos of the grave stones)

I have found Tague and Fanning together in the Griffith's Valuation in Fenagh Parish in County Leitrim. (None togehter in Roscommon)

I have had researchers from the History Centers in Leitrim and Roscommon look for records for Tague and none so far have mathched up. 
I thought if I could find the parish or townland I could then go to the Catholic Church records in those areas.  Any suggestions? Or is this a real brickwall due to the lack of records for Ireland.

What are the surnames you share with me?

Thanks again for your reply.

Irish

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Ireland / Irish to Scotland - Famine years
« on: Sunday 04 May 08 02:05 BST (UK)  »
Is there any list of the immigration of Irish to Scotland during the famine years (1845-1851) in Scotland?

Were there passenger lists or any records kept by the Scottish government on the Irish entering at that time or even into the late 1850's?

I've looked at so many passenger lists on every site I could find and have found no mention of this.

Thanks for any suggestions :)


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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Is this photograph "faked"
« on: Sunday 21 October 07 21:18 BST (UK)  »
I agree it does look a bit strange however I recently took an old sepia colored photo to reprint it. I reprinted it in black and white, it came out looking just like this photo.  Mine came out much brighter then the original.

She also seems to be leaning forward which could give her head the illusion of looking like it is too big compared to her body. 

But I have reprinted old sepia photos in black and white. It can be done.

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Completed Census Requests / Re: Ancestors_From Ireland to Coatbridge
« on: Sunday 21 October 07 20:04 BST (UK)  »
I am very interested in your Gilmartin's from Coatsbridge. I too have Gilmartin's from Ireland to Scotland. Some lived in Coatbridge and in Airdrie, only a few miles apart. Most are buried in St. Joseph's Cemtery on Dykeshead Road in Airdrie and most went to St. Margaret's School/Church in Airdrie.

Here is my Gilmartin line...Let me know what you think.

I have James Gilmartin b:1841 that I have no info on, if he was married, any children or even when he died.

Descendants of Thomas Gilmartin
            
1  Thomas Gilmartin   b: Abt. 1805 Ireland, d: Aft. 1841
..+Helen O'Donnell   b: 1806 Ireland,d: March 18, 1873 Airdrie, Lanark,  Scotland
.......2  Michael Gilmartin b: 1836 Leitrim/Roscommon, Ireland,d: April 01, 1901 Airdrie, Lanark, Scotland
...........+Mary Ann Griffin, b: 1839 Leitrim/Roscommom, Ireland,d: June 12, 1910 Airdrie, Lanark,  Scotland
................3  Margaret Gilmartin, b: January 24, 1861 Airdrie, New Monkland,  Lanark, Scotland, UK, d: December 21, 1929 Kearney, New Jersey
....................+John Joseph Tague, b: July 03, 1859 New Monkland, Scotland, UK,d: February 23, 1937 Airdrie, New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
..........................4  Thomas Tague, b: August 22, 1885   
..........................4  Michael Tague(1), b: Bef. 1886   
..........................4  Michael Tague, b: April 04, 1887 Airdrie, Lanark, Scotland, d: May 16, 1972 Kearney,  Hudson County, New Jersey
..............................+Sarah Connelly, b: February 10, 1901 Scotland   d: USA
..........................4  Mary Tague, b: September 21, 1890, d: Aft. 1901
..........................4     Anna Tague, b: March 27, 1893 Airdre, Scotland   d: May 12, 1980 in USA
..............................+Harry R. Eagens, b: January 14, 1892 Pennsylvania, d: 1960 USA
..........................4  Hugh F. Tague, b: December 12, 1895 Airdrie, Scotland, d: April 02, 1962 Airdrie, District of New Monkland, Lanark County, Scotland
..........................4  John J. Tague,b: September 09, 1899 Airdrie, Scotland, d: September 16, 1918 In submarine during WWI off the coast of Whales
................3  Thomas Gilmartin   b: November 13, 1862d: June 10, 1904 Bothwell, Lanark County, Scotland
................3  Patrick Gilmartin   b: October 14, 1864 New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland   
................3  John Gilmartin b: June 18, 1867   
................3  Michael Gilmartin   b: March 12, 1871 New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland   
....................+Helen Kelly      
..........................4  Martha Gilmartin b: April 24, 1899 Airdrie, New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland   
................3  Helen Gilmartin b: July 02, 1873 New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland   
................3  Mary A. Gilmartin   b: 1876   
....................+Patrick Lynch      
..........................4  Mae Lynch, b: Abt. 1895   
..........................4  Unknown Lynch      
.......2  Thomas Gilmartin, b: Abt. 1837 Lietrim/Roscommon, Ireland   
...........+Sarah Griffin b: Abt. 1840, d: December 28, 1863 Airdrie, Scotland
................3  James Gilmartin, b: January 09, 1862 New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland   
....................+Catherine Lamb   b: Abt. 1862   
..........................4  Margaret Gilmartin   b: June 18, 1886   
..........................4  Sarah Gilmartin b: February 02, 1888
..............................+Thomas Burgess      
..........................4  James Gilmartin b: March 14, 1890   
..............................+Agnes Flannigan      
..........................4  Thomas Gilmartin b: June 25, 1892,d: 1931
..............................   +Winifred McGowan      
..........................4  John Gilmartin b: July 07, 1894,d: March 25, 1902
..........................4  Robert Gilmartin b: June 19, 1896,d: June 23, 1896
..........................4     George Gilmartin b: December 23, 1899   
..........................4     Catherine Gilmartin   b: February 15, 1902
..............................   +Cormac Graham      
.......2  James Gilmartin b: 1841 (died unknown)   

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Lanarkshire / Re: 1851 CENSUS- GILMARTIN
« on: Friday 02 February 07 15:31 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks all...given me more to look at. Every bit helps and I appreciate the time spent looking for this info.
Wonderful group here! :D
Thank you

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Lanarkshire / Re: 1851 CENSUS- GILMARTIN
« on: Thursday 01 February 07 19:42 GMT (UK)  »
Joe,
On the following post, do you remember the surname? If Gilmartin/Gilmourton not  sure these fit in. Griffin/Griffen would tho.
Thanks much I so appreciate your help.

Posted by: Joe
now in 1851 i believe the sisters are with their mum mary;

1851 census; 33 princes street, glasgow st.mary

mary...head...age 38...pawn broker...
mary...dau...age 18
sarah ann...dau...age 11
rose...dau...age 9

all born ireland.

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Lanarkshire / Re: 1851 CENSUS- GILMARTIN
« on: Thursday 01 February 07 19:21 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all for your time

I did find the marriage banns for Michael & Mary Ann in 1860 and also for Thomas and Sarah in 1861.

The Gilmourton records are indeed my family as well as the Devitt's.

I was trying to determine where in Ireland Michael and Thomas Gilmartin had come.

Can you share what info is on the census for the Devitt's, Michael & Hugh?

Thanks again and this will indeed help in furthing my search.  It has certainly given me a few more clues to go on.


Thank you!


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