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I have just seen this post and hope I can add some value.

My credentials for doing so are as follows, I was born in 1953 in Crumpsall Hospital, my eldest son was laos born there in 1979. My mother sadly died in Springfield Hospital and I lived ( Birch Road ) and worked around all that area in the 70's and early 80's.

As previously stated , what is now North Manchester General Hospital is an amalgam of 3 Hospitals on the same site. Springfield Hospital ( which was a mental instituition and earlier the workhouse ) Delauneys Hospital ( geriatric ) and Crumpsall Hospital ( A&E, maternity, general ) The whole site is loosely linked with various other buildings of different ages although the bulk of it is Victorian.

It is bounded by Delauneys Road on the North and east and Crescent Road on the south and west. It used to be possible to drive from Delauneys road up into the various Hospitals and then exit on a drive to Crescent road.

There was I believe a lodge at the bottom of the drive at the Crescent road Junction which was previously the workhouse Masters residence and would have later become the address used in the subject of this post ( 123 Crescent Road ) It was alittle isolated and a small field was adjacent  before coming to the aforementioned farm, Clarkesville ( which we knew as Farrar's Farm. this had a small drive leading up to the Jewish cemetery adajacent to Springfield Hospital.

I would think that the main Hospital used the 72 delauneys road address as its "clearing house " as it too had a similar lodge building at the entrance just down from Birch Road.

If there is any other explanations I can possibly help with, let me know.

The Policeman who was killed was not on Delauneys road, but Crumpsall Lane.

Thanks for your efforts. I got hallingham from the actual census image itself and have just tried the "magnifier " on it again to see it it could be wrongly transcribed, but no.

I had also discovered the hallingbury,s and they are close to herts but when i followed the Google trail to an online genealogy page it looked liked another typo ( like mine above - hallinham )

There seem to be no other references at all in Google to hallingham.

One possible lead is that in 1851, Francis's younger sister ( Frances ) is living with the family and is recorded on the census sheet as being born in Essex, Sheering. There is a sheering too a couple of miles south of the Hallingbury's

Thanks for that. Ebn has sent me quite alot of information which has added to my knowledge. I thought this Manchester marriage was odd at first but I then realised I had alreday found it myself and used it as a basis for Lucy lloyd marrying George Robinson.

Why  they would marry in Manchester is a mystery though as both were from Shropshire and continue to live and have children in Shropshire.

Perhaps Ebn can shed some light ?

Ted

Theres hope yet then !  I hope I have his genes !

Thank you very much Peter - another useful piece of information, now I can get a death certificate.

Thank you very much Tara

I am sure that the Esther Batt you refer to is my 4xGreat Grandmother. The age fits and the fact that her husband Joseph is listed as a widow in 1851 Census.

The other information may be of use but I dont have any link with those names yet.

Thanks agian for your help.