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For what it's worth, I think they are all male farm workers. I suggest they are posing for the photo and the tools are just 'props'. I don't think they are a work gang doing a particular job as the tools are too varied for any single farm job I can think of.

Back row: possibly a hoe or a shepherd's crook? two hayrakes, a staff as used by a cattle drover, and a spade. Front row possibly milking pails, and the man sitting centre left seems to be holding a milk dipper, used to measure out a pint or half-pint of milk into a jug or bottle.

They all seem to be wearing smocks which suggests a date in the late 19th century.

Just my feeling from studying the original photo. I did try enhancing it but with less success than some of the others here.


I usually remain detached during my research but sometimes when I'm writing up my findings I do find myself getting emotionally involved. I have copies of some letters written to my grandmother by three of her brothers who were serving in the Great War. One was killed in France and one returned without his right arm (I did meet him once and to this day I can still picture him holding out his left hand to shake hands - that sort of thing makes an impression on a small boy), only the eldest of the three survived.

An earlier ancestor lost his first wife three months after they married, then married again and had four children who all died in infancy followed by his second wife. After that he seems to have had four illegitimate children with a third woman, eventually marrying her and increasing their family to eight, although only six of them survived childhood.

The fact that so many others suffered similarly can't have made it any easier to bear these losses.

Worcestershire / Re: Agriculture in 1894
« on: Wednesday 05 December 18 22:38 GMT (UK)  »
I think the depression caused a more general loss of jobs in agriculture across the country at that time, largely due to the fall in the price of grain, meat and dairy produce which could be bought in from overseas more cheaply. I believe many farmers went out of business and a lot of farm labourers were forced to find work  elsewhere.


Technical Help / Re: Broadband speed - mbps or MBPS or Mbps or what?
« on: Wednesday 05 December 18 21:38 GMT (UK)  »
I think I would prefer a matched pair/set of adapters so that encryption can be used. I don't know what the maximum range is but I have a pair set up between the house and an outbuilding almost 100 yards away, passing through two three consumer units, so it would be likely that many neighbours could potentially 'eavesdrop'.

I can stream live CCTV through mine, and it doesn't even seem to matter if they are connected to a different phase of the 3-phase supply.

I think the speed rating is simply the maximum they can handle.


Technical Help / Re: Book creation programs
« on: Friday 30 November 18 12:26 GMT (UK)  »
Whilst I accept that it happened often, I find it hard to believe that my g/g/grandparents were not heartbroken when they lost their 4-year old son and 2-year old daughter within days of each other from scarlatina, and they must have been very anxious when their third child (my g/grandfather) was born a few months later. Obviously he survived, and they had two more daughters as well. The mother must have been a strong woman because they had a few other problems but she died at the age of 96 from "old age and exhaustion"

Of course people generally accepted what life threw at them, they had little choice so they just got on and made the best of it in most cases, but you only have to read some of the literature of past centuries to realise they experienced the same sort of feelings that any of us do now.


Technical Help / Re: Book creation programs
« on: Wednesday 28 November 18 17:31 GMT (UK)  »
Since you asked, I am inclined to agree that your example is a little over-fictionalised for my taste. I try to stick to the facts as far as possible and where I do make assumptions I say so in the text. But it is a personal thing so really anything goes unless you plan to publish it as a factual account  ;)

I agree that you should carry on with the book. Your postings on RC would suggest you are far from illiterate: your spelling, grammar and punctuation are certainly better than most  8)  and your posts are always easy to read and understand.


Technical Help / Re: Book creation programs
« on: Tuesday 27 November 18 17:13 GMT (UK)  »
Slightly off Topic, but how do you write a family history without it just seeming to be like a long list of dates? My family tree program generates all sorts of reports that I'd like to incorporate, but it all seems so very clinical. I've considered slightly fictionalising it and changing black and white characters into coloured characters so to speak and possibly mentioning local and national contemporaneous events. I'd be interested to hear what other people have done.


Some years ago I started writing my family history in book form, but I'm afraid it has been on hold for a couple of years with the occasional brief addition. I found it best to use a proper DTP package, Serif PagePlus in my case, because you see the layout on screen as you write and can re-position items, adjust fonts, and include photos, charts, etc all in the same program.

The only way I could make it readable was to pick the more interesting characters and make them the focus of a chapter each, along with their near relatives. For example, one ancestor had a shipyard, so I made him and his family the the subject of one chapter and researched some of the local history and padded out the story with events of the time, adding in some national or global events that filled out the bigger picture.

There are a few snippets from my book on my embryonic web site . . . also work in progress  ::)

[added] I have also included in the book the bare facts in the form of tree charts, etc. I will also include an index of names and, possibly, places which can be generated automatically in PagePlus.


The Common Room / Re: Why no digitisation of birth, mariage and death vital records?
« on: Thursday 22 November 18 14:02 GMT (UK)  »
Having done a small amount of transcribing for the LDS in the past, I am most appreciative of all those volunteers who have devoted their time to making information available to us. Not to mention all the volunteers on RC who also give so much freely. I have tried to repay in kind where I can but I am indebted to so many RootsChatters over the years.

Our hobby is probably in a better position now than it has ever been .


The Common Room / Re: Why no digitisation of birth, mariage and death vital records?
« on: Thursday 22 November 18 10:02 GMT (UK)  »
Perhaps I'm in the minority but for me much of the enjoyment of family history comes from finding information despite all the difficulties. Piecing together odd bits of the jigsaw until suddenly you have the full picture, or at least enough to give you a good idea of the full picture. If that involves me in some expense it is entirely my choice, I don't expect anyone else to subsidise my hobby any more than they would if I was interested in mountaineering, flying or trainspotting  ::)

Once everything is fully available in digital form for anyone to access there will be no need for research and our hobby will be dead  :'( 

Anyway, after many years of research most of my missing ancestors pre-date the census by a century or more, so why aren't all parish registers fully digitised?  ;)

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