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Cheshire / Re: Ravenscrofts & Hewitts
« on: Monday 22 October 07 16:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi Crystal,

Glad you're feeling better.

I think you've made a real breakthrough with John's father Thomas - nice one!

I am curious about Thomas marrying Catherine Hewitt in 1807 (5th Jan in Nantwich I think) as I've got a Stephen Ravenscroft marrying a Mary Ann Hewitt in 1838. Quite a long time between the marriages I know, but still possibly more than just a coincidence.

As you say, no links yet, but now that your Ravenscrofts have started moving into the 18th century this can only be coming closer and closer!

Best regards,

NN

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Cheshire / Re: Ravenscrofts of Nantwich, Wharton & Winsford
« on: Sunday 14 October 07 21:18 BST (UK)  »
Crystal,

My apologies, omitted to say
how I hope you're feeling better.

Best regards,

NN

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Cheshire / Re: Ravenscrofts of Nantwich, Wharton & Winsford
« on: Sunday 14 October 07 21:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi Crystal,

Good to hear from you. Regarding John, my rule of thumb is that if you get 2 identifying links its probably right, 3 its fairly certain.

Unfortunately my 'link' with John & Newton has not got back to me so I cannot help to move this line of enquiry forward.

Will be back in touch when I have something new to add.

Best regards,

NN

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Cheshire / Re: Ravenscrofts of Nantwich, Wharton & Winsford
« on: Sunday 16 September 07 06:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jean,

What a lot of marital connections to the Ravenscrofts -
not just 1 or 2, but 3!!!

Whilst I've 'got' 14 Thomas Ravenscrofts and some Ravenscroft links to Over I can't tie up with #1.

I've 11 Mary Ravenscrofts but as yet no link to a Samuel. Where was your Mary born as I have 3 born around the right time in Leighton, Bostock and Moulton?

I can't find any immediate links with the second Mary.

There's a lot of these Ravenscrofts about aren't there?! But I still believe they must have had quite a high concencentration in this area - so the links are probably there to be found - one day!

Best regards,

NN

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Cheshire / Re: Ravenscrofts of Nantwich, Wharton & Winsford
« on: Friday 14 September 07 18:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi Crystal,

'Good luck with your Jane, hope you find something' ...

Oh, my goodness, C! Since my last post on the 5th I've spent most of the last week's evenings adding over 200 Ravenscroft/Ravenscroft related individuals to my tree. I began to feel a bit silly about my assertion that it was not a common surname but realistically I think it must have actually had a fairly concentrated coverage around the Middlewich area. I have not found a definite link with your tree but bearing in mind 'my' numbers and 'your proximity' I am even more convinced than before that the link does exist, it just needs finding.

The problem (as I'm sure you've found) is that whilst the detail to search on is fairly slight for 1812 John all we know about his father is that he was apparently called Thomas.

I did find that John and Sarah married on 24.08.1845 at Wybunbury, Cheshire if that's of any interest.  Also, and possibly more interesting, some references to John on the web do suggest he was born in somewhere called Newton in 1812. I have emailed one of these sources to clarify where the Newton link comes from. Anyway, Newton is a part of Middlewich and there was a 'suitable' Thomas there in the late 18th century:

Thomas Ravenscroft, christened,10.05.1786, Middlewich
Buried 13.02.1841 again in Middlewich

His father was
Jonathan Ravenscroft, born Stanthorn, christened 8 Jan 1749, Middlewich
mother
Sarah Leigh

Thomas, Jonathan and Sarah are all in my tree so this would be a link if we could be confident with the John-Newton-Middlewich-Thomas link. Some speculation I know but I would be reasonably confident if I knew why the Newton connection had been made to John.

Well whether we ever make the link or not (hope we do!) I've really enjoyed exploring the Ravenscroft tree from 'my Jane' as a starting point. Good luck with your tree.

Best regards,

NN

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Cheshire / Re: Ravenscrofts of Nantwich, Wharton & Winsford
« on: Wednesday 05 September 07 18:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi Crystal,

Over (which used to be a borough in its own right) gradually became a part of Winsford in the late 19th century. So along with Wharton it is also about 12 miles away from Willaston.

As there are 'currently' (2001 census) a relatively small number (1797*) adult Ravenscrofts in the UK. I'd be surprised if one of us doesn't eventually find a link. *http://www.yournotme.com/

I think I found your Edward on Rootsweb - http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=teddie&id=I19817

This suggests:

Edward RAVENSCROFT -
DoB: 29 Nov 1847 in Willaston,Cheshire
Christened: 30 Nov 1847 Wybunbury,Cheshire
Father: John RAVENSCROFT b: 1812/1816 in Cheshire
Mother: Sarah ROBINSON b: 1820 in Manchester,Lancs
Married: Elizabeth MERRILL of Wrenbury
Married: 11 May 1870 in Wrenbury,Cheshire,England

That for John:
Married an  Elizabeth b: 1808 in Cheshire first
and that they had two sons:
John RAVENSCROFT b: in Willaston,Cheshire
Edwin RAVENSCROFT b: in Willaston,Cheshire

Then John seems to have married again:
Sarah ROBINSON b: 1820 in Manchester,Lancs
and then had two more children:
Emma RAVENSCROFT b: 1846 in Willaston,Cheshire
and finally your Edward RAVENSCROFT b: 29 Nov 1847 in Willaston,Cheshire

Also that (as you thought) John's father was Thomas RAVENSCROFT. Apologies if you already had most/all of the above already but it might just help me later if a connection can be made.

Anyway whilst I was looking at the long list (http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=teddie&recno=16715)of Ravenscrofts (perhaps I misjudged their number above!) on Rootsweb I've just come across 'my Jane'.
Will investigate this further now and let you know later if I find any link to your Edward/John/Thomas!

Best regards,

NN

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Topic placement query
« on: Saturday 18 August 07 08:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi Crystal,

Good to hear from you - have set up a new topic to deal with this at

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,250796.0.html

Hope you find
"Ravenscrofts of Nantwich, Wharton & Winsford" of interest -
might stimulate some others' interest too.

Best regards - NN

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Cheshire / Ravenscrofts of Nantwich, Wharton & Winsford
« on: Saturday 18 August 07 08:25 BST (UK)  »
Following an enquiry within a separate topic I've set up this one to see if there's any interest/follow-up re. the Ravenscrofts of Nantwich, Wharton & Winsford.

"Hi NN - My hubbies rellies came from Nantwich area and I was wondering if there was any connection?  His ggrandad was Edward Ravenscroft who married Elizabeth Merrill.  They had Henry and Frank and another possible son has just appeared but am still checking him out. Edward was born c 1848.

Look forward to hearing from you, Crystal."

Hi Crystal,

I have a Jane Ravenscroft (dob. 1816) and her sister Elizabeth (dob. 1821) both born in Wharton which is just less than 12 miles from Nantwich so it's likely there is some link - you might have to go back a bit, then forward again. Have you tried the IGI at http://www.familysearch.org/ ? I found it great for going beyond the range of the Victorian census data.

I know that the girls mother was called Mary (dob. 1787) and that she came from Over, Winsford.

Jane married William Hall and of their 6 children (that I know of) Annie married Alfred Cooke. They had 11 children - Jessie married (1911) John William Oakes. They had 7 children - Lilian May (dob. 1917) was my grandmother.

Can give you more details if you want them, especially if you make the link before I do as this would certainly be of interest.

Best regards - NN

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Topic placement query
« on: Friday 17 August 07 15:12 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks Arranroots,

Your response pleases me on several levels -

Unlike a recent query to eBay which eventually spanned many emails and even then produced no resolution to a straightforward question,

You have answered my enquiry.
The answer makes sense and is clear.
If users do make errors they are supported.
I know I'm dealing with a real person! And a nice one at that!!

Best regards - NN

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