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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Mother's Maiden Name Issue
« on: Tuesday 07 June 22 00:27 BST (UK)  »
I would be surprised if the 13 year old mother registered the birth (but who knows, maybe?) Mistakes do happen- my great great grandfather, when registering his only son, got his wife's maiden name wrong (one of her middle names was recorded as her maiden). Perhaps the informant was asked about the father at some point and the names got muddled on the record.

Things like that happen, although you don't mention how recent this was. I'm sure in a few cases a while back the person themselves might not have been sure, much less whoever the informant was. Even more so if the informant wasn't a family member.

I was reading pages of inquests once and it was terrible how many people took their own lives. Of all the multitudes, only rarely did they record a verdict of suicide. It was amazing how many different and extremely deliberate methods were employed while of an unsound mind.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Son of Thomas & Mary Ward
« on: Thursday 12 May 22 01:47 BST (UK)  »
I can see the spouseless marriage entry on FindMyPast and FamilySearch, transcript only.

Still possible the original page was damaged or faded... or potentially whoever was writing it forgot to add her name in!

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Son of Thomas & Mary Ward
« on: Wednesday 11 May 22 18:28 BST (UK)  »
Have you been looking at transcriptions or original images?

Do other marriages around that one have the bride's name? Some early marriages only have the woman's first name or even no name at all, although in my experience that's usually 1700s or earlier. It's also possible that the page was damaged and the bride's name was unreadable. An 1806 marriage would be unlikely to make note of the person's age (it varies across time periods and places mind you).

The Common Room / Re: Could my dad be adopted via family
« on: Thursday 05 May 22 21:09 BST (UK)  »
In the past it was fairly common to honour someone by using their surname as a middle name, or even full name as first/middle names, especially the maiden surname of the mother. My family was common as muck on all sides and they did this regularly. The fact that he has a middle name and his siblings don't doesn't matter so much when the whole given name is a mark of respect. That's not to say you are wrong in your suspicions, but it could simply be that for some reason they did name their biological son after this man. It could be because they liked him, it could be because they were hoping for some favours or inheritance from him (especially since, as you say, he had no children of his own).

As for the hospital anecdote... Who knows. Perhaps she left him 'in good hands' while she looked after the household, her husband and another five children. Perhaps she was given advice from the medical staff about how to behave (I've heard lots of stories of well intentioned people being less than sympathetic when it came to mothers and children). Perhaps she didn't have the maternal instinct one would expect (no offence to her).

Of course, should you decided to pursue an ancestral DNA test in the future, this should clear up easily especially given how closely related the question is. If you find matches to both your grandmother and grandfather's sides of the family, it would seem likely he was their biological child after all. If not... you might be able to work out who in the family you are or are not related to and draw whatever conclusions from that.

Dublin / Re: Trying to find mother's first name
« on: Thursday 05 May 22 01:11 BST (UK)  »
Have you found any other BYRNE children, particularly entries where the Golden Fleece is mentioned? Although it seems to have been the form of the time to write in father's name only, you might hit lucky with another time period (or official doing the writing) or a Joe Bloggs BYRNE at some point...

I feel your pain with the marriage records... If you are lucky wife's name might be mentioned in a will or burial entry might specify wife of...?

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help reading cause of death
« on: Wednesday 27 April 22 00:13 BST (UK)  »
It's worth noting that there are several "cardiac disease" "cardiac failure" on the entire page, all as "cardiac" rather than "cardio", which is partly what's putting me off. What is a Odual anyway?  :-\ I was googling various spellings hoping to get somewhere close  ???

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help reading cause of death
« on: Tuesday 26 April 22 23:53 BST (UK)  »
Having a squint...

I see "[...] disease, 6 months, syncope, certified". I'm trying to make the first word say 'cardio' (or, with a dose of imagination 'cerebro') but no idea on the second word yet.

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