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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Witness's Surname Please
« on: Tuesday 11 October 22 14:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
Looking for help with Alexander's surname.
Regards, Bill

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Peeblesshire / Re: John Rose and Helen Grieve
« on: Thursday 15 August 13 13:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rootschatters,
I have finally broken through one half of my ‘brick wall’ after many years of trying.
John Rose and Isabella Stevens used the Scots’ naming convention for their children. This has allowed me to ‘crack’ the ‘Helen Grieve’ line.
Their child (3rd daughter) Robina Baird Rose born 1869, allowed me to identify Helen Grieve’s parents as Hay Grieve and Rabina Bertram. So far nothing more on the Grieve line, but Rabina’s line led me back to the Bertrams of Nisbet and Kersewell, and the Hays of Haystoun and Smithfield (a great result for me)
The Rose line still remains unsolved. Using the same thought process.....
Child Joseph Rose (3rd son) born 1866 should lead me to......
Joseph Rose b1866 Edinburgh – John Rose b abt1834 Aberdeen – John Rose – Joseph Rose??
Any thoughts or help please..........

Bill

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: John Harvey**complete Thank You**
« on: Sunday 04 August 13 18:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi mitch,
press the home icon under my profile pic for my contact details.

Bill

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Surname help please
« on: Sunday 28 April 13 14:07 BST (UK)  »
Of course.... how stupid am I?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Surname help please
« on: Sunday 28 April 13 14:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Need help please, with both surnames from marriage certificate. Both names a likely to be of Irish descent.

Benjamin R_______ farmer deceased.
and Ellen Roberts MS  W______ deceased.
I'm confident of the 'W' as it appears a few time on the document as 'W'illiam

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Witness's name please
« on: Saturday 16 February 13 17:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hi rootschatters,
Any help please with Alexander's surname, everything else is clear.

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Nairnshire / Re: Rose of Kilravock
« on: Saturday 09 June 12 19:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi mjbecker,

I’m sad to hear of the death of Anna Elizabeth. And thank you for joining rootschat to tells us.
I’m sure you are also correct about David Baird (Rose)
This is taken from my rootwebs page......
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=heedrapper&id=I3473

Heir-line versus Heir-male.
An important question of succession now arose. There was no doubt that issue of the last Baron having failed, the nearest male heir of line was Dr Rose of Broadley, whilst it was equally clear that Mrs Elizabeth was the nearest heir whatsoever, and the question the courts had to decide was whether it was Dr Rose's first born son James by Margaret Russell or his second wife Elizabeth Rose and her son who were entitled to the estates. Litigation was at once entered upon. It was the great 'causa celebre' of the time. The Rev. James Rose of Oakham, near Ripley, in Surrey, as uncle and tutor to the children of the first marriage, took up their cause, and Mr Francis Russell, of Westfield, Advocate, as tutor dative, pursued it still more actively. Poor Mrs Elizabeth records that she entered on the contest to maintain her rights of succession, "without friends or means against a powerful opposition." She was a brave woman, and was animated and sustained all through the prolonged litigation by the feeling that she was seeking to preserve the ancient heritage to the rightful heir. In 1783 the Court of Session decided practically in her favour, to the great joy of the district. When the tidings of the decision arrived, there were bonfires, dancing, and general rejoicing at Nairn and Kilravock. The case was appealed to the House of Lords, but four years later the decision in her favour was confirmed. The old lands and barony of Kilravock became hers, but Geddes, which stood on a different footing, fell to James Rose, as nearest heir male. It turned out that in creating a faggot vote on Kilravock Barony for his brother Lewis, the old Laird, her father, had whether intentional or not is not clear made the property to revert on his brother's death to himself, "or his nearest heirs whatsoever in fee." The fortunate clause enabled Mrs Elizabeth, with her son and her mother, to return to the home of her forefathers, where for the remainder of her life she ruled and reigned, not only as mistress of Kilravock, but as Queen of Nairnshire.

Bill Rose

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with baptism entry please...
« on: Thursday 31 May 12 19:37 BST (UK)  »
You are welcome. I think this couple are fairly affluent, given the occupation of the witnesses. With a little effort I'm sure there will be more information on them to be found. Good luck with your search.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with baptism entry please...
« on: Thursday 31 May 12 18:19 BST (UK)  »
Its indexed as 'F' on Scotlandspeople.gov.uk...... together with two other children for this couple

Added...
16/09/1769   FARQUHARSON   GEORGE
18/07/1762   FARQUHARSON   MARGARET
18/06/1766   FARQUHARSON   ROBERT



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