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The Common Room / Re: GRO digital images £2.50
« on: Wednesday 01 May 24 21:21 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, Antony, I missed that.

The Common Room / Re: GRO digital images £2.50
« on: Wednesday 01 May 24 12:46 BST (UK)  »
GRO indexes are publicly available ( up to the most recent quarter) but again GRO have decided to restrict the coverage of their own on-line indexes, even though they have previously made the same data available through other means ( e.g. Ancestry and FindMyPast).

Do you know if they are going to update the online Deaths index beyond 2021?

The Common Room / Re: FindMyPast special Easter offer 30% off
« on: Sunday 31 March 24 20:27 BST (UK)  »
I posted about this on another thread. I didn't see the offer until I got an email today.
They offered me 20% off when my 40% Black Friday deal expired.
Wondering if I ignore this offer too, they might offer 40% off again.

The Common Room / Re: FindMyPast Subscription Renewal
« on: Sunday 31 March 24 20:07 BST (UK)  »
I took the 3 month Black Friday offer at 40% off.
When that expired they offered me another go at 20% off. I didn't respond.

Now they are offering me 30% off (for 3 or 12 months) but offer expires at midnight tonight. Email only came today.

What do you think are the chances of another 40% offer if I ignore this one?

The Lighter Side / Re: Marrying your dead wife’s sister
« on: Tuesday 26 March 24 01:29 GMT (UK)  »
Not strictly prohibited as such - what the Act actually said (s2) was ...

"That all marriages which shall hereafter be celebrated between persons within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity or affinity shall be absolutely null and void to all intents and purposes whatsoever"

So it made any such marriages automatically void - but that didn't prevent them from happening, and quite regularly. My 3x G Grandfather married his widows younger sister (in 1840). They went to a neighbouring parish for the ceremony, but family members were witnesses and I doubt there was much attempt at any secrecy about it.

Despite the 1835 Act It is a fairly common thing to find in families at that time, and no offence was committed by anyone doing it.

I've never understood the reasons for the 1835 Act. I understand the religious prohibition as it flows from the idea that marriage makes a husband and wife "one flesh" and therefore their respective relatives were regarded as blood relatives. It seems unnecessarily strict though.  I imagine that many of these marriages were for sound practical reasons as widow(er)s were left with young children to support or care for.

The Lighter Side / Re: Marrying your dead wife’s sister
« on: Tuesday 12 March 24 13:08 GMT (UK)  »
In instances I have come across, although the second marriages took place at some distance, the couples returned home afterwards.  Their families and communities must have been well aware that the two wives were sisters.  I don't think everyone disapproved, or even felt strongly about it.

My great-great grandparents avoided marrying while it was against church law, but did so before it became civil law.  Harriet's first husband died in 1829, and she married his brother Richard in 1835. They had a child in 1831 who was baptised in their home village, but no father is recorded in the parish register.

Marriage between a widow and her deceased husband's brother was prohibited under ecclesiastical law, although until 1835 there was no civil ban, and such marriages were not void (although voidable).  The 1835 Marriage Act however, hardened the law into an absolute prohibition (while, however, authorising any such marriages which had already taken place), so that such marriages could no longer take place in the UK.

Richard and Harriet were very probably discouraged from marrying because of ecclesiastical disapproval.  But faced with a civil ban, they married before the Marriage Act came into force on 31 Aug 1835, marrying outside their own parish by licence.  They continued to live in their own village, and everybody must have known the circumstances.  Probably nobody cared except the vicar!

The Common Room / Re: FindMyPast Subscription Renewal
« on: Tuesday 13 February 24 22:32 GMT (UK)  »
Sounds like they are finally coming to the realisation that it's better to have some of our money than none of our money  ;D
Common sense should tell them that there comes a point where you can't make as much progress as before, and then it's hard to justify an annual sub. 

The Common Room / Re: Does anyone know of any current Ancestry special offers?
« on: Friday 26 January 24 21:38 GMT (UK)  »
Just checking in to say that my Premium sub expired yesterday and I've just successfully re-subscribed for a year using the magic link. 

Meanwhile there is currently an offer popping up on Facebook and elsewhere offering 4 months for £20.  That may suit anyone who doesn't want to fork out for a whole year.

The Common Room / Re: Who fills in the census forms?
« on: Wednesday 18 October 23 09:31 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the replies. They confirm my assumption that only the 1911 and 1921 censuses reveal the handwriting of the head of household, or in the examples I have in mind, the handwriting of the individuals listed.

Don't assume anything! In 1911 my great-grandfather completed his father's census form and signed it in his father's name. This is obvious from comparing it with his own census form  ;D

As I'm very familiar with her handwriting, I am also pretty sure that my grandmother filled in the form for her household and signed as her father. 

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