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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Ag Lab Origins
« on: Thursday 07 August 08 02:16 BST (UK)  »
I understand that it was difficult for Ag Labs to move too far afield, but still they did move. A few years back I did what  I think is a fairly comprehensive search of the Bedfordshire PR's looking for the birth and/or marriage of this ancestor Robert Bailey who stayed in Bletsoe for about 25 years up until his death after he first appeared  there.  So why can't I find a birth or marriage record?


Family History Beginners Board / Ag Lab Origins
« on: Wednesday 06 August 08 18:35 BST (UK)  »
Some ancestors (Robert and Elizabeth Bailey) were ag labs who appeared in Bletsoe, Beds about 1780.  The first of several children (Joseph) is born there in 1779.  I cannot find the marriage of a Robert Bailey and Elizabeth Bailey  in Beds,  Hunts., or Northants in the preceeding 10 years that fits. (Must rule out Kings Cliffe)  Is there any way to trace the orgins of ag labs or does anyone know how far they tended to migrate?  There are Robert & Elizabeths recorded in the IGI, but I am assuming a distant of no more than 40 miles from Bletsoe.

HELP anyone?


Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Kings Cliffe PR Look-up
« on: Tuesday 29 July 08 18:01 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Sandy.  You are most kind and helpful.


Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Kings Cliffe PR Look-up
« on: Monday 28 July 08 19:01 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone with access to the Kings Cliffe PR help me, please?   There is recorded the marriage of a Robert Bailey and Elizabeth Richardson in 1771.  Three questions:  1) Is there any baptismal record of children for this union  born 1771-92 ?  2) Is there a burial record for Elizabeth Bailey, spouse of Robert, for the period 1771-92?   3) A Robert Bailey is buried in 1812.  Does the entry by any chance give his age?

Problem: There is a Robert Bailey married to an Elizabeth Richardson in 1771, and a marriage for Robert Bailey (widower) to Elizabeth Butterworth  8 Nov. 1792.  Is there any chance these are two different people?

My thanks to the angel who can answer this.


Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Northants Marriage Look-up: Bailey
« on: Monday 28 July 08 18:51 BST (UK)  »
Assistance,  please.  I am searching for the marriage of a Robert Bailey to Elizabeth (surname unknown) circa 1775.  Their first child is baptised in Bletsoe in 1779.  I am aware of the 1771 marriage in Kings Cliffe of Robert Bailey and Elizabeth Richardson, but that does not seem to fit.  Is there by any chance another Robert Bailey and Elizabeth marriage prior to 1779?  Bedfordshire and Huntingdonshire indexes show no possibilities.


Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« on: Monday 28 July 08 18:43 BST (UK)  »
 :( I agree that it looks doubtful if the Robert Bailey and Elizabeth Richardson married in 1771 are the couple who appear a few later in Bletsoe, but to be certain (as much as one can be in this business) I would like someone with access to the Kings Cliffe PR to  check  if:    1) any children were born to this union; 2) is there a burial record for Elizabeth between 1771 and 1792; and 3) does the burial record for Robert (1812)  by any chance give his age.
Although a long shot, I want to rule out there being two Roberts, i.e., the Robert who marries Elizabeth Richardson in 1771 is not same person who marries Elizabeth Butterworth in 1792.

Is that going too far, maybe?


Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« on: Friday 25 July 08 01:25 BST (UK)  »
Thanks John for the details  of the three Bailey burials in Bletsoe.  It was what my memory ( a very fragile and dangerous thing ) told me.  For a while I could not find my old notes, but subsequently I located them, thankfully :)   .  Your assistance is most appreciated.


Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« on: Thursday 24 July 08 17:28 BST (UK)  »
As always, thank you, David, for your keen insights and suggestions.   I have looked at that Kings Cliffe marriage entry many times.  It almost fits but not quite.  Some family trees posted on the Net say that particular Robert died in 1812, but I must inquire further as to the source of that information.  I am quite sure that Elizabeth Bailey, the wife of Robert,  recorded in the Bletsoe PR is the later burial entry and not the 1795 death.

These people were agricultural labourers.  I am not sure how far afield -- forgive the pun -- they travelled in search of work.  Any idea?


Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage LookUp:Beds, Hunts, Northants?
« on: Sunday 20 July 08 01:21 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I agree with David. That 1754 birth referenced in IGI cannot be substantiated by the Bletsoe parish records.  Thus my qaundry continues.

DavidD :-[

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