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Staffordshire / Re: Turner/Emery
« on: Monday 03 October 11 21:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rob

You must be pleased to have finally solved the problem of John's parents. It just shows that answers turn up when you least expect.

I'll have a look and see if I've still got my notes and next time I get to the Records Office in Stafford I'll have another look through the parish records and see if I can tie it all together. I don't know when I'll get chance to go - I broke my ankle earlier in the year and I'm just getting back to normal now.

Having read your other post on the Shropshire board it's all starting to make sense. Newport is only just in Shropshire and just a few miles away from Weston Park and Ivetsey Bank. Brewood is then just a few miles further east. Rickerscote is now an area of Stafford which explains the family's connection with Stafford. It's on the southern edge of Stafford but I guess at the time we are talking about it would have been considered a separate place.

Anyway I'll see what I can find.

Joy

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Staffordshire / Re: Turner/Emery
« on: Sunday 21 June 09 15:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rob and Crystal

I managed another visit to Stafford last week.

With regards to the baptism at St Peters, Stoke in 1761 I agree with Crystal and it is Marg't. The transcript of the register agreed with us as well.

I asked about wills and at that time wills were proved by the church courts so any wills for Staffordshire should be at Lichfield as that's the diocese Staffordshire comes under. I was also told that as Henry described himself as a gentleman there is a good chance he left a will. As I said the wills themselves are at Lichfield although they do have a copy of the index at Stafford. I didn't have time to look at that.

I did look at the registers for St Marys, Stafford to see if I could find what happened to Henry and Prudence after their marriage and I found the following.

Baptisms
January 1759       Prudence daughter of Henry and Prudence Turner born 11 baptized 12
February 1760     Henry son of Henry and Prudence Turner born 8 baptized 9
April 1761            John son of Henry and Prudence Turner born 9 baptized 10
November 1762   Sarah daughter of Henry and Prudence Turner born 5 baptized 7

Burials
December 1762   Sarah daughter of Henry and Prudence Turner buried 19
August 1771        Henry Turner buried 13

So it looks as though they stayed in Stafford and that's where Henry died.

It also looks like Prudence remarried on the 15th April 1773 as there was a marriage for Prudence Turner,widow to a James Lander of Sandon. Also the daughter Prudence married a John Webb in 1775 and there's also a thomas Turner marrying a Sarah Sowker in 1771. All three marriages were by license. If you want the exact details from the register for the marriages let me know as I have got them.

I'm not sure where we go from here but I will let you know if I come up with any ideas.

Best Wishes

Joy

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Staffordshire / Re: Turner/Emery
« on: Thursday 12 March 09 22:03 GMT (UK)  »
Rob

Just to clear up a point. Of the three marriages you mention only one took place in Brewood - that of John and Ann. The other two took place at St Mary's in Stafford. It gets confusing when all the churches have the same name!

It looks like the Turners may have a connection to Stafford and it's probably also worth trying to find out more about Henry.

Joy

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Staffordshire / Re: Turner/Emery
« on: Sunday 01 March 09 13:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rob

That's alright. At least I know I wasn't missing something obvious. When I get chance I'll check the register for St Chads Stafford but I don't know when I'll get to the records office again.

Joy

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Staffordshire / Re: Turner/Emery
« on: Saturday 21 February 09 15:01 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone

I went to Stafford last Tuesday but didn't have much success. I certainly didn't do as well as Crystal did. It sounds as though she had quite a day.

I tried to find the marriage between Johannes Turner and Sara Nichols in 1713. As Crystal said the fiche is unreadable but I did look at the transcript. Unfortunately the marriage wasn't in the transcript. I resorted to sitting with the transcript, looking at the fiche and trying to make sense of it all. However I failed and couldn't see the marriage at all. Rob are you sure the marriage was at Brewood? Where did you get the information from?

I also checked Brewood for baptisms which would tie in with Johannes and Sara's marriage but there were none. However I did find what could be William Emery's baptism.
 "Baptized was William the son of Samuel Emery Feb 12 Anno Dom 1707/8".

Joy

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Staffordshire / Re: Turner/Emery
« on: Wednesday 11 February 09 19:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rob, Crystal and everyone else.

Crystal - I hope you're feeling better. I bet your OH is not very popular at the moment!

Rob - I'm hoping to go to the records office next Tuesday. I'll check back here before I go and see if Crystal was able to find anything and then decide what to do next. Are we trying to find a link between you and Zac?

Joy

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Staffordshire / Re: Turner/Emery
« on: Monday 12 January 09 20:23 GMT (UK)  »
Willow

I've enjoyed it and it's been good practice reading the handwriting in the parish registers. It also makes a change from trying to find Jones and Edwards!!

Rob

There's several points to add to my previous post.
1) I think Castle Church refers to the church near Stafford Castle.
2) I've searched the baptisms for Brewood from 1760 to 1780 inclusive. There may be more children for Samuel and Sarah after this date.
3) I've searched the marriages for St Marys, Stafford from 1754 to 1762 inclusive and those two were the only Turner marriages.
4) I forgot to say before but I asked about being married by license. There should be some records concerning the application for the license but these are with the diocese records and are kept at Lichfield. These records may or may not give extra details but it could be worth finding out. Perhaps Crystal can help again?

Joy

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Staffordshire / Re: Turner/Emery
« on: Thursday 08 January 09 20:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rob

I followed Crystal's example and wrote the marriage entries down word for word.

This means I looked at John Turner's marriage to Ann again and here's the full entry (I should have done this the first time!!)

St Marys & St Chad's, Brewood,

John Turner of the parish of Stoke in the County of Stafford, Potter and Ann Emery of this parish, spinster were married in this church by License with the consent of her father this fifteenth day of October one thousand seven hundred and fifty nine by me Richard Fenton Vicar. This marriage was solemnized between us John Turner and Ann Emery. In the presence of Richard (can't read surname) and Sam: Emery.  They all signed. 

Here's Samuel and Sarah's marriage.

St Marys, Stafford

Samuel Emery of the parish of Brewood, and Sarah Turner of this parish, spinster were married in this church by License this tenth day of June one thousand seven hundred and sixty two by me Joseph Dickenson, Rector. This marriage was solemnized between us Samuel Emery and Sarah Turner. In the presence of Henry S Turner and John Hurlbutt.  They all signed.

I also found the following marriage at St Marys Stafford which may be of interest to you. I don't know if there's any connection but the name caught my eye.

Henry Turner of the parish of Castle Church in this county, gentleman and Prudence Sutton of this parish, were married in this church by License this twenty second day of December one thousand seven hundred and fifty seven by me Joseph Dickenson, Rector. This marriage was solemnized between us Henry Turner and Prudence Sutton. In the presence of  John Hurlbutt and J. (can't read surname).    They all signed.

I looked at the baptisms for Brewood from 1759 to 1780. There are no baptisms for John and Ann's children. There are baptisms for both Samuel and Sarah's children and John and Catherine Turner's children.

Here are Samuel and Sarah's children - all the dates are baptism dates.

January 11th 1763        William son of Samuel and Sarah Emery
April 18th 1765              Samuel son of Samuel and Sarah Emery
May 17th 1766              Walter Turner son of Samuel and Sarah Emery
May 25th 1768              Sarah daughter of Samuel and Sarah Emery
June 8th 1769               Ann daughter of Samuel and Sarah Emery
September 24th 1770   John son of Samuel and Sarah Emery
March 7th 1772             Henry son of Samuel and Sarah Emery
June 3rd 1773               Elizabeth daughter of Samuel and Sarah Emery
February 28th 1775      Mary Ann daughter of Samuel and Sarah Emery
April 10th 1776             Prudence daughter of Samuel and Sarah Emery
September 22nd 1777  John son of Samuel and Sarah Emery
January 8th 1779         Fanny daughter of Samuel and Sarah Emery

Hope you find the above infomation useful.


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Staffordshire / Re: Turner/Emery
« on: Sunday 04 January 09 14:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rob and Crystal.

Hope you both had a good Christmas and best wishes for the new year.

Rob I'm going into Stafford on Wednesday and hope to spend a couple of hours in the records office. Is there anything in particular you want checking? I'll look at Samuel Emery's marriage for you then look at the registers for Brewood again. Are you interested in the Emery family if I come across them in my search? Whilst I'm there I'll also check where the registers for Longton are held as Stoke on Trent has its own archives.

Joy

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